Hello everyone! I need some advice...

Just want to say hello to everyone first off. I have been coming to this forum for answers a lot in the past but I decided to sign up today.

Need some advice and I hope you guys can help... Ok, I currently own a 7d with a few lenses. f4L 70-200, Sigma 28-200, canon 50mm f1,4. I have had the 7d for a couple of years now and love it to death. I always check kijiji (used classified posting website in Canada) for any good deals etc. Yesterday i found a brand new Canon 5d ii for sale for $1500 Brand new 0 Actuations. Also i have someone interested in my 7d and is willing to buy for $1100. I will be keeping my lenses though. My question is, is this a worthwhile trade up? The photography I do mostly is indoors with minimal light and street photography. I have a Yongnuo flash on my 7d but sometimes i do not want to use it because of the event I am at. I understand that the 7d has a great focusing system and is really fast compared to the 5d ii, but speed does not interest me because I will not be shooting any fast moving objects. Mostly still and flowers etc...

So should I take the plunge to a 5d ii???

Thanx in advance for your responses

It's a hard question. For pure IQ, the 5d MKII will be better. As for overall "feel" the 7D will feel and be more advanced in things like AF as you mentioned.

If you really love your 7D, I think I would stick with it. If you do a lot of portraits, the 5D MKII would be a better option imho.

Gregg.Siam wrote in post #15465440
It's a hard question. For pure IQ, the 5d MKII will be better. As for overall "feel" the 7D will feel and be more advanced in things like AF as you mentioned.

If you really love your 7D, I think I would stick with it. If you do a lot of portraits, the 5D MKII would be a better option imho.

thanx for your response, I am leaning toward the 5d ii. The photos I take will suit the 5d ii more. Do you know off the top of your head if you can customize the buttons on the 5d ii? For example on my 7d i have changed the depth of field button to switch my focus from one shot to servo with a push of the DOF button.

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According to the manual, there are a few buttons you can customize to some extent. The DOF preview button is not one of them.

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com …02/eos5dmkii-im5-c-en.pdf

mnphotos wrote in post #15466288
According to the manual, there are a few buttons you can customize to some extent. The DOF preview button is not one of them.

http://gdlp01.c-wss.com …02/eos5dmkii-im5-c-en.pdf

ok thanx a lot!

Although I think you know this -- to be sure you consider -- you'll be moving from a 1.6x crop FOV to a FF FOV on your lenses due to change in sensor size.

if you don't have the need to shoot fast moving subjects, its a worth while trade up.

dnauer wrote in post #15466929
Although I think you know this -- to be sure you consider -- you'll be moving from a 1.6x crop FOV to a FF FOV on your lenses due to change in sensor size.

i am aware of this. I will however miss the extra range that the 7d offers over a FF. But i am more concerned with the image quality and low light performance over that. I can always step a bit closer if I need to! LOL

mike_311 wrote in post #15466931
if you don't have the need to shoot fast moving subjects, its a worth while trade up.

True, out of maybe 10 shots that I will take, I will probably shoot a fast moving object maybe once out of ten. However the AI Servo feature of the 7d is great. It seems to track a moving object well. I think I have made up my mind and will be going with the 5d ii. It is a bit dated (4 years old technology) but the 7d is 3 yrs old technology now. On the plus side too is that the camera I hope to get is brand new in box. I think it is a worthwhile upgrade.

mike_311: I checked out your portfolio, great work! Was that shot with you 5d ii??? Just curious because the quality is fantastic.

milleniumking wrote in post #15467157
mike_311: I checked out your portfolio, great work! Was that shot with you 5d ii??? Just curious because the quality is fantastic.

which portfolio?

my website was mainly shot with a 60D, 500px is a mix of both and my photo blog is mainly 5d2, especially the newer stuff.

and thanks btw

the thing i love most is how much you can crop and still pull a tons of quality with out getting grainy. makes composing much easier. i used to find my self always wishing i had a bit more to work with when using my 50mm, i used to always be in too close trying to pull the most detail i could. now i have the extra space and the details.

Of the two, the 7D is a more versatile, multi-purpose camera. I use a pair for sports/action, wildlife, anywhere I need a telephoto's reach.

The 5DII is my choice for portraits, landscape, architecture... and low light. It's image noise handling is good to about one stop higher ISO than 7D, in my opinion. Canon rates them the same, but in my experience the 5DII's AF, even though it slows down, also continues to work about one EV lower light than 7D's. My comparison maybe be skewed, though, since I use the 7Ds mostly in AI Servo and the 5DII mostly in One Shot. Tracking moving subjects in AI Servo with 5DII is largely limited to the center point alone (though there are six hidden AF Assist points clustered right around the center, that can be enabled, but only work in AI Servo).

Yes there's a bit of a bump up in image quality and high ISO handling with 5DII.... It captures gobs of fine detail that allows big prints and/or lots of cropping... at the cost of slower, lower performance AF system, and loss of a lot of the nice little features on the 7D, such as the assignable buttons (and the 100% viewfinder, frame rate, active matrix focus screen, wireless flash control and more). The 5DII also uses an older design 35 zone metering system, compared to 63 zone iFCL on the 7D. In use there''s some differences, but not really a lot.

Frankly, crop cameras such as the 7D and all the 18MP models are pretty darned good. The 5DII may have 2.5X larger sensor, but the pixel density of the 7D is more than twice that of the 5DII. In the end, if you'll need to make prints larger than, say, 13x19" before you'll start to see some of the difference in the fine details. And with good post processing, the differences will be minor until you get to a much larger print.

I like using the two formats together, each for what they do best. I suspect that even if I upgraded to the 5DIII and it's much better AF system, capable of sports/action shooting along with everything else, I'd still keep using the 7Ds for sports/action for their "extra reach" (yeah, I know it's "not real", but the 7D really does "put more pixels on target").

Flash sync with 7D is 1/250... with 5DII it's 1/200. With studio strobes it varies a bit depending upon the lighting gear, but the 7D syncs fine with my Norman monolights at 1/160 and my 5DII does fine at 1/125, though Canon recommends 1/30 to 1/60 with both cameras.

Oh, and the 7D has a quieter shutter than 5DII. I found that out doing equestrian photography. I rarely see a horse react to the 7Ds shutter sound, but have spooked a few with the 5DII.

Welcome to POTN... Beware, though, there's a lot of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) around here and it's highly contagious.

milleniumking wrote in post #15467131
i am aware of this. I will however miss the extra range that the 7d offers over a FF. But i am more concerned with the image quality and low light performance over that. I can always step a bit closer if I need to! LOL

I have a 40D so it is easier to justify a move at this time -- I rented a 6D and was amazed except for focus on AIServo -- using a single focus point on one shot was excelelnt though. I really do think my 40D tracked better compared to the 6D using the default focus settings -- but I had the 6D for 5 days and did play around with some of the focus options (not available on a 40D!) and got better focusing results -- so it may be a case of learning the camera. I'm just in a quandry myself. Shooting at 12,800 ISO with excellent images SOOC was simply amazing. The feel and soft shutter sound were amazing too, and what was nice is a 6D is practically the same size and weight of a 40D. Not sure I can justify the cost of a 5DIII. And the IQ was much better (of course I'm comparing a 5 year old (very good) 10.1mp sensor to a current 20.1mp sensor . . . your 7D also has a wonderful sensor).

I'd keep your 7D and just invest in more glass at this point. While the 5D2 mentioned is a good deal, you might not like the 5D2 after your 7D's autofocus system. You could always look into getting a 5D classic on the cheap now. That way you'll have both!