Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EOS Digital Cameras 
Thread started 09 Jan 2013 (Wednesday) 14:25
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

I Ordered a 5D Mark III... But Got Laminate Flooring Instead - Dell.com

 
iLvision
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,766 posts
Joined Oct 2011
Location: Western pot hole city, Massachusetts
     
Jan 17, 2013 23:40 |  #721
bannedPermanent ban

MOkoFOko wrote in post #15503287 (external link)
Go to the 2am thread then.

2am thread is #1 rated fun POTN thread for kids AND old farts :lol:


Ilya | Gear | flickr (external link) D800| 14-300mm f/1.4GL ED VR III USWM

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
pwm2
"Sorry for being a noob"
Avatar
8,626 posts
Likes: 3
Joined May 2007
Location: Sweden
     
Jan 18, 2013 06:12 |  #722

ten2376 wrote in post #15502982 (external link)
We developed one very intelligent monitoring software that cut this down by a vast percentage, not only weight, but density, and customer analytics monitor this stuff with some intense processing power.

Why care about the density? If people haven't forged labels and put on a different box, the box size should be the same. So the density should directly follow the weight. Unless you wanted to catch people claiming to ship a tower computer in a box big enough for a pair of sneakers.


5DMk2 + BG-E6 | 40D + BG-E2N | 350D + BG-E3 + RC-1 | Elan 7E | Minolta Dimage 7U | (Gear thread)
10-22 | 16-35/2.8 L II | 20-35 | 24-105 L IS | 28-135 IS | 40/2.8 | 50/1.8 II | 70-200/2.8 L IS | 100/2.8 L IS | 100-400 L IS | Sigma 18-200DC
Speedlite 420EZ | Speedlite 580EX | EF 1.4x II | EF 2x II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Chet
my rates fluctuate
Avatar
43,269 posts
Gallery: 130 photos
Likes: 2144
Joined Sep 2007
     
Jan 18, 2013 07:07 |  #723

iLvision wrote in post #15503337 (external link)
2am thread is #1 rated fun POTN thread for kids AND old farts :lol:

You're full of crap. Not like a box of it, but just in general. ;)


Curator of the Bob's Pickle Emporium experience. -As always, One location to serve you better!
~Feel good today and donate to this great forum~ LINK
My Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SMP_Homer
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,700 posts
Gallery: 29 photos
Likes: 515
Joined Mar 2008
Location: London, Ontario
     
Jan 18, 2013 07:37 |  #724

MOkoFOko wrote in post #15503285 (external link)
Well boo hoo. That's what you get for running out of woody puns.

i think you nailed it


EOS R / 1D X / 1D IV (and the wife has a T4i)
Sig35A, Sig50A, Sig85A, Sig14-24A, Sig24-105A, Sig70-200S, Sig150-600C
100-400L, 100L, 100/2, 300 2.8L, 1.4x II / 2x II
600EX-II X3, 430EX-III X3

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
msowsun
"approx 8mm"
Avatar
9,271 posts
Gallery: 18 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 374
Joined Jul 2007
Location: Oakville Ont. Canada
     
Jan 18, 2013 08:13 |  #725

ten2376 wrote in post #15502982 (external link)
We developed one very intelligent monitoring software that cut this down by a vast percentage, not only weight, but density, and customer analytics monitor this stuff with some intense processing power.

pwm2 wrote in post #15503979 (external link)
Why care about the density? If people haven't forged labels and put on a different box, the box size should be the same. So the density should directly follow the weight. Unless you wanted to catch people claiming to ship a tower computer in a box big enough for a pair of sneakers.

For any given box size, the weight (and therefore density) can be very different. A box box full of feathers will not weigh the same as a box full of depleted Uranium. That is how they can identify when someone has tried to scam them by sending a worthless box.


Mike Sowsun / SL1 / 80D / EF-S 24mm STM / EF-S 10-18mm STM / EF-S 18-55mm STM / EF-S 15-85mm USM / EF-S 55-250mm STM / 5D3 / Samyang 14mm 2.8 / EF 40mm 2.8 STM / EF 50mm 1.8 STM / EF 100mm 2.0 USM / EF 100mm 2.8 USM Macro / EF 24-105mm IS / EF 70-200mm 2.8L IS Mk II / EF 100-400 II / EF 1.4x II
Full Current and Previously Owned Gear List over 40 years Flickr Photostream (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Chet
my rates fluctuate
Avatar
43,269 posts
Gallery: 130 photos
Likes: 2144
Joined Sep 2007
     
Jan 18, 2013 08:14 |  #726

MOkoFOko wrote in post #15503285 (external link)
Well boo hoo. That's what you get for running out of woody puns.

This thread is forever stained. Not a sliver of decency.


Curator of the Bob's Pickle Emporium experience. -As always, One location to serve you better!
~Feel good today and donate to this great forum~ LINK
My Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JakAHearts
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,723 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 1383
Joined Sep 2010
Location: Silver Spring, MD
     
Jan 18, 2013 08:41 |  #727

Chet wrote in post #15504233 (external link)
This thread is forever stained. Not a sliver of decency.

Just because its stained doesnt mean it cant be refinished and buffed to a nice shine. :cool:


Shane
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Chet
my rates fluctuate
Avatar
43,269 posts
Gallery: 130 photos
Likes: 2144
Joined Sep 2007
     
Jan 18, 2013 08:46 |  #728

JakAHearts wrote in post #15504294 (external link)
Just because its stained doesnt mean it cant be refinished and buffed to a nice shine. :cool:

I think it needs clear cut, burned and re-seeded.


Curator of the Bob's Pickle Emporium experience. -As always, One location to serve you better!
~Feel good today and donate to this great forum~ LINK
My Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
pwm2
"Sorry for being a noob"
Avatar
8,626 posts
Likes: 3
Joined May 2007
Location: Sweden
     
Jan 18, 2013 09:00 |  #729

msowsun wrote in post #15504231 (external link)
For any given box size, the weight (and therefore density) can be very different. A box box full of feathers will not weigh the same as a box full of depleted Uranium. That is how they can identify when someone has tried to scam them by sending a worthless box.

Yes of course. It is rather obvious what "density" means.

But if I send out a box with a weight of 10kg, and that box arrives at the other side now 8kg heavy, then both weight and density have decreased with 20%. Unless someone chipped away 20% of the box volume at the same time so both volume and weight decreased proportionally.

So how is density relevant if tracking a package as it moves through the system? Density would track crushed boxes, but isn't there better way to track that?

If rotating and shaking an object, it would be possible to deduce how the weight inside the box is distributed. That could catch a manipulated package where the contents have been replaced with something else that happens to have the same weight.


5DMk2 + BG-E6 | 40D + BG-E2N | 350D + BG-E3 + RC-1 | Elan 7E | Minolta Dimage 7U | (Gear thread)
10-22 | 16-35/2.8 L II | 20-35 | 24-105 L IS | 28-135 IS | 40/2.8 | 50/1.8 II | 70-200/2.8 L IS | 100/2.8 L IS | 100-400 L IS | Sigma 18-200DC
Speedlite 420EZ | Speedlite 580EX | EF 1.4x II | EF 2x II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
caoko
Senior Member
260 posts
Joined Aug 2012
     
Jan 18, 2013 09:20 |  #730

Did the op post the camera and lens serial numbers?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
RTPVid
Goldmember
3,365 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Aug 2010
Location: MN
     
Jan 18, 2013 09:35 |  #731

pwm2 wrote in post #15504376 (external link)
Yes of course. It is rather obvious what "density" means.

But if I send out a box with a weight of 10kg, and that box arrives at the other side now 8kg heavy, then both weight and density have decreased with 20%. Unless someone chipped away 20% of the box volume at the same time so both volume and weight decreased proportionally.

So how is density relevant if tracking a package as it moves through the system? Density would track crushed boxes, but isn't there better way to track that?

If rotating and shaking an object, it would be possible to deduce how the weight inside the box is distributed. That could catch a manipulated package where the contents have been replaced with something else that happens to have the same weight.

Weight depends on where you are when you take the measurement. Mass is what matters! :cool:


Tom

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
RTPVid
Goldmember
3,365 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Aug 2010
Location: MN
     
Jan 18, 2013 09:37 |  #732

rrblint wrote in post #15503206 (external link)
Man this thread has gotten boring.

People are just drilling down to the details, that's all.


Tom

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
runninmann
what the heck do I know?
Avatar
8,156 posts
Gallery: 47 photos
Likes: 150
Joined Feb 2006
Location: Michigan-U.S.A.
     
Jan 18, 2013 09:38 |  #733

Chet wrote in post #15504316 (external link)
I think it needs clear cut, burned and re-seeded.

maybe clear coat - a nice water-based matte finish


My Gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
pwm2
"Sorry for being a noob"
Avatar
8,626 posts
Likes: 3
Joined May 2007
Location: Sweden
     
Jan 18, 2013 09:53 |  #734

RTPVid wrote in post #15504499 (external link)
Weight depends on where you are when you take the measurement. Mass is what matters! :cool:

Exactly - but that requires the use of shaking/rotation as I did write about. We can't create gravitational fields yet :D


5DMk2 + BG-E6 | 40D + BG-E2N | 350D + BG-E3 + RC-1 | Elan 7E | Minolta Dimage 7U | (Gear thread)
10-22 | 16-35/2.8 L II | 20-35 | 24-105 L IS | 28-135 IS | 40/2.8 | 50/1.8 II | 70-200/2.8 L IS | 100/2.8 L IS | 100-400 L IS | Sigma 18-200DC
Speedlite 420EZ | Speedlite 580EX | EF 1.4x II | EF 2x II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Clemson656
Senior Member
Avatar
977 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jan 2006
Location: Central Pennsylvania
     
Jan 18, 2013 10:01 |  #735

So, what's the conclusion of this? Sorry, I haven't followed the whole thread.


Everyday Gear || 5D III | 6D | 24L II | 50L | 16-35L II | 24-70L II | 600EX-RT ||

My Canon Gear List and Feedback!

Computational Photographer ~= Photographer with Computational Photography & Computer Vision Background~= Art + Science :)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

177,811 views & 0 likes for this thread
I Ordered a 5D Mark III... But Got Laminate Flooring Instead - Dell.com
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EOS Digital Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is dannydematio
978 guests, 302 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.