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How is the <$2000 D600 so much better than 5DmIII ???

 
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Jan 12, 2013 00:03 |  #1

This isn't meant to be a troll thread, but take it as you will...

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94 vs 81... I only thought to look at comparisons after I heard my pro photographer friend talking about it--he said he was gonna do some side-by-side testing of his own.

These DxOMark tests are pretty objective, aren't they?

like I said, I'm not trying to be a troll. Lately I've been frustrated with being stuck with this rebel for at least a little while. (Each passing moment seems like months). The main reason why I'm frustrated with the rebel is not because I want more bokeh, more wide shots, and be able to use nice long lenses more like the 135L.....it's mostly because I feel like I can't get the skin tones...color depth...rich/vibrant--yet, organic color to skin tones in portrait. I feel like most of the time if I want any pop at all the color looks artificial. I shoot in raw and try to shoot at low ISO..100 if possible..and use lr4.

Looking at DXO comparison site, I can see how much improvement that full frames like the 5D mark 1,2,3 have in the portrait color depth compared to my camera...and even non rebels like 50D and 7D.

And then I see how older nikons and cheap new nikons have better color depth and dynamic range, etc and score significantly higher than even the 5D series....!!!???


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Jan 12, 2013 00:05 |  #2

getting the popcorn ready . . .


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Jan 12, 2013 00:07 |  #3

Just like gobs of horsepower and torque, if you can't hook, you'll lose every time.


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Jan 12, 2013 00:18 |  #4

can you be more specific? I can understand answers like "I am lens committed", but don't know what to make of "can't hook".

I had heard before that Nikon's metering is significantly better, but I was really gonna upgrade to either 5D I or II...but it seems even Nikon's crop D300s has better color depth and dynamic range.. I care especially about the color depth for portraits. I'm pretty sure a lot of you can tell a picture taken with a crop sensor vs. FF just by looking at it...especially when you look at portraits.

I have been lusting after the Canon 135 f2L, only to find out today that Nikon has it's own 135 f/2 with a patented defocus control to blur the foreground or background even more :o

Anyway, I guess the fanboys will be here any minute :) I'm sure a lot of people are "lens committed" and that's fine, but apparently even some successful professionals make the jump sometimes :o


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Jan 12, 2013 04:13 |  #5

To add insult to injury look at the Pentax k-5 II position on DXO. I have bought one to test (£729 v 5D Mk3 at £2250) and you don't want to know the results when compared to my Canon cameras.


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Jan 12, 2013 04:22 |  #6

Low ISO dynamic range and high ISO noise, better IQ. All the things that matter in a photo taking machine


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Jan 12, 2013 04:49 |  #7

Interesting that DxO rated the D600 as a better "sports" camera than the 5D3. They obviously didn't watch this review:
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Jan 12, 2013 05:01 |  #8

lol, DxO objective :lol:


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Jan 12, 2013 06:03 |  #9

KhaledA wrote in post #15478153 (external link)
lol, DxO objective :lol:

So you think they're Pentax, Sony, and Nikon fanboys? Or getting paid more by them than canon?


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Jan 12, 2013 06:56 |  #10

hyogen wrote in post #15478211 (external link)
So you think they're Pentax, Sony, and Nikon fanboys? Or getting paid more by them than canon?

I'm just saying there's something fishy about their tests when the D800's sensor is rated as better than the far superior MF offerings. Or when the Canon 70-200 II is rated as worse than the original.


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Jan 12, 2013 07:00 |  #11

They do scientific testing. Sony made sensors are the best there at the moment. These tests show this. Whether these differences can be actually seen in photographs by people is debatable. Higher dynamic range though does allow better software rescue if a shot is under or over exposed. The large difference in the overall figures doesn't really represent how good the camera is but more so how good the sensor is. It is nice if your camera scores well here but maybe a bit moot. I have seen great pictures from a 10d but according to dxo the sensor has bad image quality. User reviews usually reflect the product better in my opinion.


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Jan 12, 2013 07:03 |  #12

KhaledA wrote in post #15478298 (external link)
I'm just saying there's something fishy about their tests when the D800's sensor is rated as better than the far superior MF offerings. Or when the Canon 70-200 II is rated as worse than the original.

Hmm I see... Although I've never used either 70-200, I sure have heard and read that the II is better..


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Jan 12, 2013 07:08 |  #13

DXO opinion is worth nothing to any photographer. They should actually pay me to visit and read that website. Thats how much bollox is there :]


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Jan 12, 2013 07:20 |  #14

DXO again=Yawn!!!


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Jan 12, 2013 07:37 |  #15

Maybe only canon users can discern synergy between body, lens, and spirit :D


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