Cannot open or edit RAW (cr2) files?

At the weekend i decided to start shooting in RAW so i could do more editing. On Saturday i went out and took some great photos that would look awesome once I've tweaked them a little.
Now, the RAW files have came out of my 650D as cr2 files, and i can't seem to even open them never mind edit them. I want to open and edit in Lightroom (I'm using Lightroom 3 at the moment), is there a way around this?

P.S Copy to DNG does nothing either

bboysmax wrote in post #15485639
At the weekend i decided to start shooting in RAW so i could do more editing. On Saturday i went out and took some great photos that would look awesome once I've tweaked them a little.
Now, the RAW files have came out of my 650D as cr2 files, and i can't seem to even open them never mind edit them. I want to open and edit in Lightroom (I'm using Lightroom 3 at the moment), is there a way around this?

P.S Copy to DNG does nothing either

Is lightroom up to date on available updates for your version? Also if you want to view your raw(cr2) file Irfanview is a viewer that read almost all formats. You can aslo try to use DPP that came with the Camera on the disk, that should be able to read your 650D cr2 files. Lightroom 3 has no issue reading cr2 files, seeing that the 650D is a newer camera your ACR engine in Lightroom might need an updating.

Try to update LR3 and see if there is an available update, that might fix it.

Sevan

LR3 does not support the 650D as far as know. I think you'll need LR 4 (you'll need the 4.1 update I believe).

Download the latest version of the DNG converter from Adobe to ensure compatibility with your 650D files (If converting to DNG, my advice is to keep the original cr2 files somewhere though)

S.E.V. wrote in post #15485670
Is lightroom up to date on available updates for your version? Also if you want to view your raw(cr2) file Irfanview is a viewer that read almost all formats. You can aslo try to use DPP that came with the Camera on the disk, that should be able to read your 650D cr2 files. Lightroom 3 has no issue reading cr2 files, seeing that the 650D is a newer camera your ACR engine in Lightroom might need an updating.

Try to update LR3 and see if there is an available update, that might fix it.

Sevan

Yep i've updated everything on LR3 and it wont even let me import the file.

NinetyEight wrote in post #15485716
LR3 does not support the 650D as far as know. I think you'll need LR 4 (you'll need the 4.1 update I believe).

Download the latest version of the DNG converter from Adobe to ensure compatibility with your 650D files (If converting to DNG, my advice is to keep the original cr2 files somewhere though)

Ahh, may need to get LR4 then. Bit of a bummer, Adobe should release an update for all LR versions to be fair on customers but ah well.

Yeah i tried copy to DNG and it didn't want to cooperate. Yeah i'll keep a copy of the original cr2 file as well

It would probably be easier to convert your raw files to jpeg using DPP, which should have been supplied with your camera.

killwilly wrote in post #15485855
It would probably be easier to convert your raw files to jpeg using DPP, which should have been supplied with your camera.

Would that be the same as just shooting in jpeg instead of RAW? Because it seems pointless shooting in RAW then converting to jpeg anyway.
Sorry if i'm missing something here

bboysmax wrote in post #15485821
Yep i've updated everything on LR3 and it wont even let me import the file.


Ahh, may need to get LR4 then. Bit of a bummer, Adobe should release an update for all LR versions to be fair on customers but ah well.

Yeah i tried copy to DNG and it didn't want to cooperate. Yeah i'll keep a copy of the original cr2 file as well

The problem is that Canon changes the Raw file format and Adobe has to update accordingly -- in this case it calls for a "major"" update, either in an update to LR/Camera Raw or to the DNG converter.

With the DNG converter, you can still do it (free) but you have to set it to be compatible with your Camera Raw converter (in your instance Camera Raw 6.x for Lightroom 3.x).

tonylong wrote in post #15485879
The problem is that Canon changes the Raw file format and Adobe has to update accordingly -- in this case it calls for a "major"" update, either in a update to LR/Camera Raw or to the DNG converter.

With the DNG converter, you can still do it (free) but you have to set it to be convatible with your Camera Raw converter (in your instance Camera Raw 6.x for Lightroom 3.x).

Where do i find the Camera Raw converter?

bboysmax wrote in post #15485863
Would that be the same as just shooting in jpeg instead of RAW? Because it seems pointless shooting in RAW then converting to jpeg anyway.
Sorry if i'm missing something here

DPP's default edit will be very close to the way the camera would have processed a jpg for that file, according to your camera setup - Picture Style, WB, sharpening, ALO, etc - but the DPP defaults are only "suggestions" that haven't been applied yet and therefore can be freely changed and rechanged without detracting from the image quality or directly affecting the Raw data. A jpg has first had the camera's edits "baked" in and then a large amount of the original data is thrown away as it is converted from 14 bits linear data to 8 bits logarithmic data. The Raw has wide latitude for processing and the jpg has much less flexibility if you want to edit it. In other words, by shooting Raw and processing in DPP you are leaving yourself the option to either accept the default Canon processing or to create your own processing.

You can do all the basic editing in DPP - anything that involves global changes in color and/or tone (brightening, darkening, contrast) and fairly good input sharpening and noise treatment. If you want to do more in a second editor you can export a 16 bit tif instead of a jpg, which will provide a better basis for further editing.

bboysmax wrote in post #15485911
Where do i find the Camera Raw converter?

http://www.adobe.com …duct=106&platfo​rm=Windows

tzalman wrote in post #15485931
DPP's default edit will be very close to the way the camera would have processed a jpg for that file, according to your camera setup - Picture Style, WB, sharpening, ALO, etc - but the DPP defaults are only "suggestions" that haven't been applied yet and therefore can be freely changed and rechanged without detracting from the image quality or directly affecting the Raw data. A jpg has first had the camera's edits "baked" in and then a large amount of the original data is thrown away as it is converted from 14 bits linear data to 8 bits logarithmic data. The Raw has wide latitude for processing and the jpg has much less flexibility if you want to edit it. In other words, by shooting Raw and processing in DPP you are leaving yourself the option to either accept the default Canon processing or to create your own processing.

You can do all the basic editing in DPP - anything that involves global changes in color and/or tone (brightening, darkening, contrast) and fairly good input sharpening and noise treatment. If you want to do more in a second editor you can export a 16 bit tif instead of a jpg, which will provide a better basis for further editing.

Once I've edited a DPP photo do i need to convert to anything again so it's easily viewable on different devices?
And whats the best way to convert to a DPP?

tzalman wrote in post #15485945
http://www.adobe.com …duct=106&platfo​rm=Windows

Ahh much appreciated! I'll take a look after work

Yes, the editing done in DPP is visible only in DPP. To see it elsewhere you need to convert to jpg or tiff.
Both jpg and tiff are universal formats that any app will open. Jpg is 8 bits compressed and is lossy - repeated resaving (not just opening and closing) or excessive compression will cause visible losses in image quality - and it is good where file size is a consideration - permanent storage and uploading. Tiff can be either 8 or 16 bits and can be compressed although not all applications will read compressed tiffs. The compression is not lossy. 16 bit tiffs are the best way to transfer the largest possible amount of data from a Raw converter to another editing program.

I'm not sure what you mean.

tzalman wrote in post #15486300
Both jpg and tiff are universal formats that any app will open. Jpg is 8 bits compressed and is lossy - repeated resaving (not just opening and closing) or excessive compression will cause visible losses in image quality - and it is good where file size is a consideration - permanent storage and uploading. Tiff can be either 8 or 16 bits and can be compressed although not all applications will read compressed tiffs. The compression is not lossy. 16 bit tiffs are the best way to transfer the largest possible amount of data from a Raw converter to another editing program.


I'm not sure what you mean.

Okay so use 16 bit tiffs to keep as much data as possible

And ignore that, i just realized DPP is Canons software
Is DPP any good? I've never used it!

bboysmax wrote in post #15485863
Would that be the same as just shooting in jpeg instead of RAW? Because it seems pointless shooting in RAW then converting to jpeg anyway.
Sorry if i'm missing something here

Open your raw image in DPP and then click > file > convert and save, choose either jpeg or tiff, the raw file will be kept unaltered. You can then open the converted image in any PP software for fine adjustments. You then have the option to keep, or bin your raw file.

killwilly wrote in post #15486348
Open your raw image in DPP and then click > file > convert and save, choose either jpeg or tiff, the raw file will be kept unaltered. You can then open the converted image in any PP software for fine adjustments. You then have the option to keep, or bin your raw file.

This is perfect! I'll try as soon as i finish work, may post some photos up if i get any done :P