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drvnbysound
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Jan 15, 2013 18:03 |  #16

I believe [personal opinion] the lack of support for HSS with RT is the simple fact that HSS requires precise timing which cannot be guaranteed when using radio frequencies (knowing that there can certainly be environments which can be very saturated with other wireless signals which could potentially interfere). It was [LIkely] a lot easier to program this when using the optical system, where the speed of light is a constant.


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Jan 15, 2013 19:06 |  #17

drvnbysound wrote in post #15493363 (external link)
HSS requires precise timing which cannot be guaranteed when using radio frequencies

Precise timing?
* Turn on the HSS pulse
* first shutter curtain
* second shutter curtain
* turn off the HSS pulse

IMAGE: http://www.pocketwizard.com/upload/photos/563Image1_489FP_Sync_Optical.jpg

PW manages to greatly improve upon the Canon optical timing ("speed of light!") when using radio freqs.

These graphs comes from PocketWizard:
http://www.pocketwizar​d.com …s/technology/fp​_sync_hss/ (external link)

Very useful in seeing how inefficient the Canon HSS timing really is. Look at all of the wasted pulsing before the green line (start of shutter). And the pulse continues to burn long after the 2nd shutter curtain has closed.

The PW FlexTT5 "hypersync" optimizes HSS by decreasing the time between #1 and #2.

IMAGE: http://www.pocketwizard.com/upload/photos/563Image2_489FP_Sync_4200_edited.jpg

From a practical standpoint, with standard HSS I used to have to change speedlite batteries after every quarter of a night time football game. But with the PW hypersync, I get more light output (1.68 stops more) AND I can shoot a whole game with one set of batteries.

I'd be interested to see if the 600EX improved upon the HSS timings at all.

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Jan 15, 2013 20:04 |  #18

coeng,

For about $90 a pair you can pick up a set of YN-622C wireless flash triggers detailed in this thread: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1212530

These radio triggers fully implement Canon's wireless external flash function settings directly from the on camera flash control menus of Canon cameras manufactured since 2005, including your 5D MkII. The only thing you need a 2012 camera body for is the new (and really great) Group mode that allows for control of up to 15 speedlites in 5 groups. These triggers will not support that but they will support the same 3 groups of off camera flash in either ETTL or Manual that have always been available before in the optical based Canon wireless system. They will allow you full remote control of both your 430EXII and your 600EX-RT. I have both, as well as a 580EXII, and use the 622 triggers (2 pair) to control all 3 from the camera menus without having to worry about line of sight communication. You just set the 600 in wireless mode not radio mode and it works just fine with the A:B C groups. Lots of 2.4Ghz radio goodness for not much cash. Oh and they fully support HSS as long as the flash itself does.

This would give you a lot of radio functionality without having to purchase a new camera or more 600EX's or an ST-E3. Even if you decide to spend all the money to go the full Canon 600 radio route later you wouldn't have spent hardly anything to get camera menu control of OCF in the mean time. Just an alternative to consider.

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