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Mar 11, 2013 11:25 |  #61

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15699196 (external link)
Absolutely. But people don't carry the G12 on you all you the time.

Actually, maybe I'm weird, but I carry a camera more often than I carry my phone :D


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Mar 11, 2013 12:28 |  #62

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For the upgrade. 150 for the full version. DPP is fine for me and my G12

IMO, the G series is perfect for a beginner as well as a more experienced photographer.
The Scene Modes in addition to the Creative Exposure Modes, along with all the other features make for a great little package all in one.

More experienced shooters will have some sort of PP software and that's fine. It is very unlikely the beginner will. Zoombrowser and DPP compliment the ability of the G Series and will get the beginner off to a great start at a relatively low price.




  
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Mar 11, 2013 12:29 as a reply to  @ TransientEye's post |  #63

I just came back from a week long vacation to California and Vegas. What I saw is at Disneyland, I would say 60% were using their Iphones for pictures, 25% had Canon Rebels with the kit lens attached, and the rest had G cameras, or similar other brand variations.

As far as the decline on this forum, I can see people that initially people that get them are on here for questions, but after using my new G1x for this trip, they are pretty simple, so we don't have questions on here about what lens to use, settings for sports, etc....people have other bodies for that purpose...my thoughts anyway...




  
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Mar 11, 2013 12:35 |  #64

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... but after using my new G1x for this trip, they are pretty simple, so we don't have questions on here about what lens to use, settings for sports,

How did you like the G1X? I'm not in the market for a new camera but it would be a tough choice if I was, G1X or G15.




  
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Mar 11, 2013 13:22 |  #65

Norman B wrote in post #15702499 (external link)
How did you like the G1X? I'm not in the market for a new camera but it would be a tough choice if I was, G1X or G15.

I really love it(of course I have not seen someone that bought any new camera and said they hate it) I also have a S100, which is a great little camera, but me personally the G15 is a larger S100, similar sensor. I actually wanted something that would give me comparable IQ to my DSLR. I actually think the images are better than my 50D with the 15-85mm. It also feels like a quality camera, meaning something sturdy, etc. The sensor size is 6X larger than what the G15 has, so image Q should be better, and also have better low light capabilities. Hey the G15 is a great little camera also, for me going to this form factor, I wanted to gain something, and IQ is it, it's built like a tank, and I actually like the flip screen. I picked mine on sale for $599 shipped, and had a gift card left over so it cost me $500 out of pocket, so I was happy with the price also.




  
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Mar 11, 2013 13:55 |  #66

TransientEye wrote in post #15702247 (external link)
Actually, maybe I'm weird, but I carry a camera more often than I carry my phone :D

Your camera is perfect for you. It's nice to find a convenient match.


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Mar 11, 2013 19:10 |  #67

mark2009 wrote in post #15702699 (external link)
I really love it(of course I have not seen someone that bought any new camera and said they hate it) I also have a S100, which is a great little camera, but me personally the G15 is a larger S100, similar sensor. I actually wanted something that would give me comparable IQ to my DSLR. I actually think the images are better than my 50D with the 15-85mm. It also feels like a quality camera, meaning something sturdy, etc. The sensor size is 6X larger than what the G15 has, so image Q should be better, and also have better low light capabilities. Hey the G15 is a great little camera also, for me going to this form factor, I wanted to gain something, and IQ is it, it's built like a tank, and I actually like the flip screen. I picked mine on sale for $599 shipped, and had a gift card left over so it cost me $500 out of pocket, so I was happy with the price also.

I understand where you are coming from. My boys each have an S95 which is more or less the same as the S100 without the GPS. The S95 and S100 just feel like a person is holding quality in their hands.

The same with the G1X as far as quality in your hands goes. Price wise, the G1X is in entry level DSLR territory yet, the entry level DSLR does not have the same feel. I'm not suggesting for a minute that there is anything wrong with an entry level DSLR. I think everyone knows the difference between the two. It really comes down to a camera is nothing more than a tool to take pictures. It is a matter of getting the tool that meets a persons needs.

The pros will always have a need for a DSLR. I think as time goes by and technology improves, the serious amateur will be reviewing what it is that he/she really needs. I think there will be a shift from DSLR to high end cameras like the G1X and others. How much that shift is remains to be seen.

I'm glad you like your G1X. Happy shootng.




  
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Mar 25, 2013 20:30 as a reply to  @ Norman B's post |  #68

Well, for me and my G6, it's not being able to use software that is Canon based (specifically with my exact camera color profile,etc) to adjust white balance, picture style or "my colors" as it's called in Preview RAW Editor, etc. DPP (before the update dumped CRW) used to do everything it does now for CR2 files from my EOS 50D (minus HDR).
Sure it still takes great photos but on the editing side, it's not worth the trouble for me right now. Sure someday someone may build an app that does more for Canon CRW files (at least I am optimistic) and I will save it for my future kids to take photos and experience "old school" technology.




  
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Aug 22, 2013 20:11 |  #69

Wow! Only nine viewers tonight -- and the G16 has just been announced.


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Aug 22, 2013 21:03 |  #70

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Wow! Only nine viewers tonight -- and the G16 has just been announced.

If you mean how many are viewing a certain forum: it's viewers at this moment, not a cumulative counter.


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Aug 23, 2013 08:13 |  #71

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If you mean how many are viewing a certain forum: it's viewers at this moment, not a cumulative counter.

I knew that. Thanks for the forum; I check in everyday. The decline in participation on the G series forum is (I suspect) more due to the rather lukewarm later G series models than an indication of POTN.


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Aug 23, 2013 15:00 as a reply to  @ GordonSBuck's post |  #72

Novelty of the G series has worn off. IMO it should be grouped in with the compact section. I think it's been suggested before.




  
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Aug 23, 2013 15:52 |  #73

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Novelty of the G series has worn off. IMO it should be grouped in with the compact section.

Really? The G subforum hardly seems unpopular. It has more total views than the compact subforum: 120,000 vs. 104,000.


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Aug 24, 2013 20:13 |  #74

I know there'll be some who consider me a Luddite, but maybe the solution to the G-series is to slow the rate of model refreshment.

It may be counter-intuitive, but the Gs are not quite in the same market sector as their cheaper counterparts. They are generally bought by the more thoughtful and experienced photographers who want to step up from cheap 'n' cheerful P&S but don't want to go the full dSLR route. Or those who don't want to lug their full-size around all the time.

As it is, I suspect there's an imperative from Canon's marketing department to refresh the model line annually to maintain market share in the belief that the target market has a short attention span, has an entitlement culture and will annually spring a substantial amount of wedge for the latest all-singing, all-dancing iteration. That isn't necessarily so.

We've had more megapixels, fewer megapixels; articulated screens, fixed screens; ISO out of menu and onto the top plate, then relegated to the back-plate; and lenses where zoom ratio and max aperture expand and contract quite arbitrarily.

Would it be too much to ask that Canon's G-series designers sit down with their marketing colleagues and decide where their market niche is going, define specs and parameters, then spend a couple of years GETTING IT RIGHT?

They could start by taking a serious tilt at sorting shutter lag, and making an optical view finder that is actually worthwhile.

If they do manage to get their sums right, they then can leave the resulting product on the market for more than just 15 months - and also slow down proliferation in the current alpha-numeric rubbish that clutters the market place and confuses customers.

But no - I recognise it just ain't gonna happen. But we can dream.


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Aug 24, 2013 21:58 |  #75

xhack wrote in post #16236928 (external link)
It may be counter-intuitive, but the Gs are not quite in the same market sector as their cheaper counterparts. They are generally bought by the more thoughtful and experienced photographers who want to step up from cheap 'n' cheerful P&S but don't want to go the full dSLR route. Or those who don't want to lug their full-size around all the time.

It isn't counterintuitive at all. I outgrew my $200 P&S*--wanted better images and more flexibility/control than it provided--but didn't want something too big and heavy to carry around. I got a G15 last fall, when that model had just come out.

If you're buying new, you get whatever G is current. The G16 costs $50 more and has no more megapixels and still no tilt screen. I'm not about to replace the G15 with it just to have the newest thing.

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*Well, not entirely. I now use both cameras. The smaller one is more carryable and concealable. It produces better images than the G15 in some macro situations.


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