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Jan 16, 2013 14:34 |  #16

Its a title that means absolutely nothing. I know artists who have sold work in galleries and some who create that have and never will sell a thing. Its about self identity, and whether their self identity matches up with your perception is the real issue. You can reject his self imposed identity, but to what end? Does it make you feel better?




  
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Jan 16, 2013 14:35 |  #17

HiepBuiPhotography wrote in post #15496880 (external link)
One of the worst rants I've read on PotN. Let him call whatever he wants to label himself.

In this day and age, I can poo on a piece of paper and consider that art and myself an artist. I've seen art exhibits of just a urinal, a painting that's completely blue, something that looks like a color palette from home depot, etc. (all from the Philadelphia Art Museum). You name it, they have it. Art is subjective, so anything can be considered art. That being said, if he wants to label his photographs art, then so be it. It shouldn't bother you at all. If I want to label myself the best wedding photographer in the universe, so be it. Whether it's true or not, he himself knows. Period.

btw : pretty nice professional photography you have going.


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Jan 16, 2013 14:40 |  #18

NWPhil wrote in post #15496926 (external link)
btw : pretty nice professional photography you have going.

Thanks! It's gotta be nice. I'm the best wedding photographer in the universe, remember? :lol:


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Jan 16, 2013 14:49 |  #19

Littlejon Dsgn wrote in post #15496865 (external link)
Where do you go to earn that title? Its kinda like the "photographer" title. Now engineer, doctor those are titles you have to earn and normaly have paper work to back it up.

You can probably get yours on Craigslist, I went to art school and learned, but even then, I didn't feel as though I was one. Like I said, it took me years to be able to call myself one, and I did earn my living doing it.
Really, I have now idea what you mean, if I were a welder, I would probably call myself one... :rolleyes::confused:;)

I sure didn't say that because of an inflated ego, one of the reasons I didn't call myself one is that my ego was anything but that.
Now, I am a photographer, not a professional one, but I can still call myself one. I have actually sold my shots in my work, but I don't consider an 'artist photographer'. I like to take shots like a lot of the others here do.

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Jan 16, 2013 14:56 |  #20

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You can probably get yours on Craigslist, I went to art school and learned, but even then, I didn't feel as though I was one. Like I said, it took me years to be able to call myself one, and I did earn my living doing it.
Really, I have now idea what you mean, if I were a welder, I would probably call myself one... :rolleyes::confused:;)

I sure didn't say that because of an inflated ego, one of the reasons I didn't call myself one is that my ego was anything but that.
Now, I am a photographer, not a professional one, but I can still call myself one. I have actually sold my shots in my work, but I don't consider an 'artist photographer'. I like to take shots like a lot of the others here do.

Randy

I was not trying to put down those that went to Art School, I just know alot of people that never did and still call themselves an artist. I love to take photos but I do not consider myself a photographer, dont feel my skills are there yet. I have also sold some prints and what not but still dont wanna call myself a photographer.

To me a title is just a title. Some you have to earn via school or certification program (like a certified welder).




  
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Jan 16, 2013 15:01 |  #21

I'm a fartist.




  
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Jan 16, 2013 15:02 |  #22

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I'm a fartist.

Title fairy, where are you when you are most need. :):)


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Jan 16, 2013 15:02 |  #23

Todd Lambert wrote in post #15497044 (external link)
I'm a fartist.

By the way, did you go to fart school and earn a degree?


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Jan 16, 2013 15:10 |  #24

NWPhil wrote in post #15496864 (external link)
Randy says it well, that you have to earn the title - just like the appalachian trail thru hikers - they are given a nickname; they don't choose one

I looked up a definition:

Artist: a person who produces works in any of the arts that are primarily subject to aesthetic criteria.

How does that not fit what he does? You might think he's a bad artist, but that's a completely different discussion.




  
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Jan 16, 2013 15:13 |  #25

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So, I know this guy, that actually takes some decent shots. He is into a very narrow and sort of specialized field - mountaineering photography - which does give him indeed an edge.
Now, by chance and lack of competition, and mostly a pay-back favor, he was even awarded some prize for shots he donated to a mountaineering group he belongs to...
He know calls himself an "artist" really! - printed right on his FB photography page - note that the guy as a profession, and photography is indeed an hobby/ wanna-be-freelancer gig going on.
Not that he does not deserve credit for hauling sometimes 10 pounds of gear while climbing, and that indeed he has some good quality shots.
What disturbs me is, seeing him naming himself artist, when indeed he does not belong in such a category...
Now, I am not jealous - it's just a rant, because other people will perceive him as such(artist) and it will diminish the true artist perception, and lead to wrongfull perception common people have about photographers, and artists

so when does a photographer can be indeed be called an artist? or it's fine, to just got ahead and grabe the title? LOL


And what credentials do you hold to say he is not?


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Jan 16, 2013 15:17 as a reply to  @ post 15496905 |  #26

There is no License or rating for Photographers or Artist. So we can call ourselves what ever we want. Who cares?
Plumbers and electricians cant claim to be one, unless they have the license and are registered in the state to work as such, or they are subject to fines by the authority having jurisdiction.
My Step mother has a painter(no license either) and he is so slow, but does immaculate work. so we call him an artist, behind his back.

There is nothing to stop any guy with a point and shoot camera to call himself a Professional Photographer. Much less a full frame gripped camera that looks professional.




  
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Jan 16, 2013 15:17 |  #27

Littlejon Dsgn wrote in post #15497020 (external link)
I was not trying to put down those that went to Art School, I just know alot of people that never did and still call themselves an artist. I love to take photos but I do not consider myself a photographer, dont feel my skills are there yet. I have also sold some prints and what not but still dont wanna call myself a photographer.

To me a title is just a title. Some you have to earn via school or certification program (like a certified welder).

"Some" might be the key word here. :)
There are welders, and as you say, "certified welders".
The deal is, a title is just a name, but we, as workers have to be called something, so if a welder was one of the worst welders around, he'd still be one, even if he was self-taught. He may have the earned title of the worst welder in that county, but it's a title. :D
As an artist, one might be self-taught, but still be called an "artist" due to it's harder to call them a 'drawer of things'. heheh Really, it's a title, maybe not an all important one, but a name of something.

Personally, I answer to, "Hey!".:cool::rolleyes:;)

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Jan 16, 2013 15:19 |  #28

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By the way, did you go to fart school and earn a degree?

Nope, completely self-taught! :o




  
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Jan 16, 2013 15:21 |  #29

Todd Lambert wrote in post #15497124 (external link)
Nope, completely self-taught! :o

Soon, I bet that Donald Trump will call you and offer you 5 million dollars to prove that. :D

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Jan 16, 2013 15:32 |  #30

Photography is an art. For example, snapping a photo of bird may not be much of an art picture, but trying to orchestrate a photo of a bird with the right background, or in the right setting, right lighting or to capture the bird doing something interesting is all art work. Same with portraits and everything else in photography. Taking photos, then being able to find what is worthy out of the bunch is also an art form. Editing photos can be an art form as well.


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