Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos RAW, Post Processing & Printing 
Thread started 08 Jan 2006 (Sunday) 16:42
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

What does 100% crop mean?

 
cfcRebel
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
10,252 posts
Joined Feb 2005
Location: Austin, TX
     
Jan 09, 2006 15:48 |  #16

Can some use a picture as an example to illustrate please? What is 100% cropped as opposed to 75% cropped if there is such a thing?


Fee

Canon | SIGMA | TAMRON | Kenko | Amvona

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jfrancho
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,341 posts
Joined Feb 2005
     
Jan 09, 2006 15:56 |  #17

Open a picture in PS. Set the view to 100%. Make a crop of it that will fit on the screen, say 100px x 100px - doesn't matter. Save as a jpeg. Post to the web. You now have a 100% crop. It is more convenient, and takes less time to download and view over the web than the full sized image.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
UncleDoug
Goldmember
Avatar
1,103 posts
Joined Sep 2004
Location: North lake Tahoe, CA
     
Jan 09, 2006 16:09 as a reply to  @ post 1067550 |  #18

Robert_Lay wrote:
I see a lot of confusion here about something that is very simple.
If the image is not resampled, then that image or any portion of that image is a 100% crop. So the important aspect of it is that during whatver operation you do to that image it must not be resampled.

All of that other stuff, such as magnification and re-sizing and what the dpi setting is, etc., is all irrelevant.

Did I get it right?

Yo got it in my book! :D


-Uncle Doug
Canon 5D & 7D
Nikon D200 - :p
Mac and PC environment
VTour (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cfcRebel
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
10,252 posts
Joined Feb 2005
Location: Austin, TX
     
Jan 09, 2006 16:12 as a reply to  @ jfrancho's post |  #19

jfrancho wrote:
Open a picture in PS. Set the view to 100%. Make a crop of it that will fit on the screen, say 100px x 100px - doesn't matter. Save as a jpeg. Post to the web. You now have a 100% crop. It is more convenient, and takes less time to download and view over the web than the full sized image.

So there is no such thing as 75%, or 50% cropped?


Fee

Canon | SIGMA | TAMRON | Kenko | Amvona

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BearLeeAlive
All butt cheeks and string.
Avatar
30,200 posts
Likes: 70
Joined May 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
     
Jan 09, 2006 17:33 as a reply to  @ cfcRebel's post |  #20

cfcRebel wrote:
So there is no such thing as 75%, or 50% cropped?

If you reduce the image quality by 75%, or 50%, then crop, it you would.


-JIM-

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jfrancho
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,341 posts
Joined Feb 2005
     
Jan 09, 2006 17:33 |  #21

Not really. I mean you can reduce the image by 25-50%, but that is kind of arbitrary. The only reason to do a 100% crop is to isolate and identify problem areas in an image, or to testify lens quality.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jfrancho
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,341 posts
Joined Feb 2005
     
Jan 09, 2006 17:34 as a reply to  @ BearLeeAlive's post |  #22

BearLeeAlive wrote:
If you reduce the image quality by 75%, or 50%, then crop, it you would.

I sort of get your logic, but why would you do this?



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BearLeeAlive
All butt cheeks and string.
Avatar
30,200 posts
Likes: 70
Joined May 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
     
Jan 09, 2006 17:38 |  #23

That is what happens to 90% or more of the 'attached images' but not necessarily the ones that are linked to.


-JIM-

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jfrancho
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,341 posts
Joined Feb 2005
     
Jan 09, 2006 17:41 as a reply to  @ cfcRebel's post |  #24

cfcRebel wrote:
Can some use a picture as an example to illustrate please? What is 100% cropped as opposed to 75% cropped if there is such a thing?

Here is a 100% crop:

IMAGE: http://plan-b.smugmug.com/photos/28774092-L.jpg

It is taken from the full size version of this image:

IMAGE: http://www.smugmug.com/photos/27807374-L.jpg

The purpose was to demonstrate camera shake rather than shutter speed as the cause of the softness.

It would have been unrealistic to post the full size image, and the smaller crop isolates the area to make the point.

I hope this helps!


  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jfrancho
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,341 posts
Joined Feb 2005
     
Jan 09, 2006 17:43 as a reply to  @ BearLeeAlive's post |  #25

BearLeeAlive wrote:
That is what happens to 90% or more of the 'attached images' but not necessarily the ones that are linked to.

All images made by a 2+ megapixel camera are likely presented this way, but not all are cropped. Don't you mean resized?



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
BearLeeAlive
All butt cheeks and string.
Avatar
30,200 posts
Likes: 70
Joined May 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
     
Jan 09, 2006 17:51 as a reply to  @ jfrancho's post |  #26

jfrancho wrote:
All images made by a 2+ megapixel camera are likely presented this way, but not all are cropped. Don't you mean resized?

To me resized is reducing file size, cropping is reducing the ammount of image shown, and neither has to do with the physical size of the picture.

Me thinks we need to get a photo guru to step in here, someone with the right verbage to help everyone understand. This is one of those simple things that when explained poorly (as I am often guilty of) tend to only muddle the mind.


-JIM-

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jfrancho
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,341 posts
Joined Feb 2005
     
Jan 09, 2006 18:00 |  #27

A 100% crop is posted without resizing. I'm no guru, but I know what I'm talking about here. The terminology I have used is straight from Photoshop, a standard. I'm not trying to start an argument, but I think the post that mentioned dpi (a printing term) is where everyone got confused. A 100% crop is a representative portion of an image that has not been resized itself, meaning one pixel in the file represents one pixel on the screen. Veiwing an entire image at that viewing resolution would be too cumbersom over the web, so we crop it to a manageable size.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sony23
Senior Member
738 posts
Likes: 1
Joined May 2005
     
Jan 09, 2006 18:17 as a reply to  @ jfrancho's post |  #28

I have used images for this hope it help.

what you see in a 100% crop is what you would see if you were holding the picture in your hand.

Try this in photoshop, right click on an image and select actual pixels, that is 100% crop or what the pic would look like if printed, now im getting confused.

Bruce

ok first click on the rectangular marquee tool, then change the dimensions in the box above to what ever size you want, I chose 800 x 600 because most peoples screen will be that, then click any where on the image, you will get the box as seen on screen, then goto image/crop and that a 100% crop of your image.

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sony23
Senior Member
738 posts
Likes: 1
Joined May 2005
     
Jan 09, 2006 18:18 as a reply to  @ jfrancho's post |  #29

jfrancho wrote:
A 100% crop is posted without resizing. I'm no guru, but I know what I'm talking about here. The terminology I have used is straight from Photoshop, a standard. I'm not trying to start an argument, but I think the post that mentioned dpi (a printing term) is where everyone got confused. A 100% crop is a representative portion of an image that has not been resized itself, meaning one pixel in the file represents one pixel on the screen. Veiwing an entire image at that viewing resolution would be too cumbersom over the web, so we crop it to a manageable size.

you explained it better than me.

thanks

Bruce


  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jfrancho
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
6,341 posts
Joined Feb 2005
     
Jan 09, 2006 18:23 as a reply to  @ sony23's post |  #30

sony23 wrote:
you explained it better than me.

thanks

Bruce

Thanks, Bruce.

sony23 wrote:
what you see in a 100% crop is what you would see if you were holding the picture in your hand.

Careful! I think this is what is confusing everyone. Is that true if printed at 4x6? What about 20x30? A 100% crop is a portion of what you would see if viewed at 100% in an image editor.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

12,205 views & 0 likes for this thread, 13 members have posted to it.
What does 100% crop mean?
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos RAW, Post Processing & Printing 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
1669 guests, 135 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.