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Aug 09, 2013 13:44 |  #2221

Nikkor316 wrote in post #16191555 (external link)
I was looking at the 33" BD but it was more expensive than I was expecting compared to the regular Phottix luna folding beauty dish that includes the adapter ring.

I looked at the Phottix Luna and its smaller than the Cheetah BD. So you would just have to ask yourself what size do you want.




  
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Aug 09, 2013 13:59 as a reply to  @ Druss021's post |  #2222

Today the 2-in-1 cable arrived and the protection tube for the bulb. The cable works great and the recycling speed is halved and just over 2 seconds at full power.

The protection tube with one cap fits exactly and is not to long as I feared so the flash still fits in the bag with the flash bulb and protection tube. I was just thinking about people want to have two caps on the tube to carry around a spare flash bulb or to have the current flash bulb apart from the flash when transporting them.

Why don't buy pairs of tubes and use both caps on one tube and do with the second tube what you like, save it or cut the upper part vertically out and use it as bare bulb reflector directing all light in one direction and up, etc..

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Aug 09, 2013 15:10 |  #2223

Druss021 wrote in post #16194522 (external link)
I looked at the Phottix Luna and its smaller than the Cheetah BD. So you would just have to ask yourself what size do you want.

Actually the Phottix Luna comes in two sizes: 70cm which is about 27.5" and 110cm which is about 43". The cheetah version is listed as 33". The Luna 43" versions sells for $85. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather support Edward as he has the best Customer Service. I'm just curious how this modifier stacks up against others like the Wescott Rapid Boxes for quick location work.


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Aug 09, 2013 15:43 |  #2224

Nikkor316 wrote in post #16194720 (external link)
Actually the Phottix Luna comes in two sizes: 70cm which is about 27.5" and 110cm which is about 43". The cheetah version is listed as 33". The Luna 43" versions sells for $85. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather support Edward as he has the best Customer Service. I'm just curious how this modifier stacks up against others like the Wescott Rapid Boxes for quick location work.

I didn't know there was a larger size for that price, thanks. :eek:




  
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Aug 09, 2013 16:01 |  #2225

Nikkor316 wrote in post #16194720 (external link)
Actually the Phottix Luna comes in two sizes: 70cm which is about 27.5" and 110cm which is about 43". The cheetah version is listed as 33". The Luna 43" versions sells for $85. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather support Edward as he has the best Customer Service. I'm just curious how this modifier stacks up against others like the Wescott Rapid Boxes for quick location work.

I don't have either, but looking at the Wescott Rapid; it has a frame opening and locking system very similar to the Cheetah 19" It also comes, I think, with the bracket to hold the speedlite/flash. It has a distinct price disadvantage. Well, If you don't have a Pro Bracket maybe the price difference is closer.


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Aug 09, 2013 16:20 |  #2226

heard mixed reviews on the Rapid box ? one guy I know travels and shoots a lot says his got tore up some did not last long someone else said there unit is holding up ?


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Aug 09, 2013 16:40 |  #2227

Nikkor316 wrote in post #16194720 (external link)
Actually the Phottix Luna comes in two sizes: 70cm which is about 27.5" and 110cm which is about 43". The cheetah version is listed as 33". The Luna 43" versions sells for $85. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather support Edward as he has the best Customer Service. I'm just curious how this modifier stacks up against others like the Wescott Rapid Boxes for quick location work.

I think the larger size is only a softbox, not a beauty dish.




  
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Aug 09, 2013 16:46 |  #2228

I am also curious but I have 2 concerns when it comes to the Rapid Box. The first is the locking mechanism that is used to expand the softbox. I don't know the proper term for it, but its the part of the softbox that you screw in to open and secure the unit. My concern is that if I were to use a speedlight that some of the light would be partially blocked because this part of the device looks huge and it sits right in the middle of where my light is firing from. The second concern is how much frontal clearance does the Rapid Box provide for my Cheetah Light. I would like my bulb to be all the way inside the unit and from what I see in the videos it doesn't look like this Softbox was made for barebulb flashes. If someone has a Rapid Box can you please address these concerns for me.




  
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Aug 09, 2013 17:15 |  #2229

Druss021 wrote in post #16194931 (external link)
I think the larger size is only a softbox, not a beauty dish.

True. And I'll take my 116cm Softlighter 2 any day over that one.

The softlighter is the same thing, but 6CM wider and easier to pair with the CL-light, since you can just mount it on the umbrella adapter.




  
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Aug 09, 2013 17:55 |  #2230

Nikkor316 wrote in post #16194720 (external link)
Actually the Phottix Luna comes in two sizes: 70cm which is about 27.5" and 110cm which is about 43". The cheetah version is listed as 33". The Luna 43" versions sells for $85. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather support Edward as he has the best Customer Service. I'm just curious how this modifier stacks up against others like the Wescott Rapid Boxes for quick location work.

Druss021 wrote in post #16194931 (external link)
I think the larger size is only a softbox, not a beauty dish.

As I very recently found, to my very considerable annoyance, the descriptions on Phottix own web-site can't be relied on for accuracy. Especially pertaining to softboxes. It certainly SEEMS that the 43" is softbox only from the description, but who can tell till it's in your hands and too late to reconsider. Were I in the USA, I'd have no qualms whatsoever about buying from CheetahStand. Edward's descriptions may not necessarily always win prizes for grammatically correct English but at least they are ACCURATE. And I gather that the customer service can't be bettered anywhere.


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Aug 09, 2013 18:27 |  #2231

Anyone know what Really Right stuff QR adapter works with the 360's screw mount?

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Aug 10, 2013 10:38 |  #2232

Can someone show me a picture of how they are centering the CL-360 in the SP MKII bracket? No matter how I position the light on the bracket, it does not fall in the center of the speedring. Installing or removing the BD or SB cam be a PITA. Unless you just drop the whole bracket that the light sits on, install box or dish, then re-position the light correctly through the speedring on the bracket. This takes some patience to get it right. I habe made an offset bracket by one inch that looks like it will work, but I need more hardware to mount. Is this what others did? I thought this was an upgrade from the original bracket. What was upgraded? If it was to accomidate the CL-xxx series, then maybe I am not putting the thing together correctly.




  
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Aug 10, 2013 12:49 |  #2233

Landcruiser wrote in post #16196402 (external link)
Can someone show me a picture of how they are centering the CL-360 in the SP MKII bracket? No matter how I position the light on the bracket, it does not fall in the center of the speedring. Installing or removing the BD or SB cam be a PITA. Unless you just drop the whole bracket that the light sits on, install box or dish, then re-position the light correctly through the speedring on the bracket. This takes some patience to get it right. I habe made an offset bracket by one inch that looks like it will work, but I need more hardware to mount. Is this what others did? I thought this was an upgrade from the original bracket. What was upgraded? If it was to accomidate the CL-xxx series, then maybe I am not putting the thing together correctly.

The Speed Pro was upgraded LONG before the CL-xxx flashes were conceived. The improvements over the original version were the addition of a front support to relieve stress on the foot of a horizontally mounted flash and a lengthened track to allow a radio trigger to be mounted to the bottom of a flash unit.

Centering a CL-360 vertically in the SP is a problem but one that can be addressed by lengthening the slot in bracket's sliding "L" arm:

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In stock form, the captive screw in the "L" arm cannot descend sufficiently to allow the CL-360 to be centered vertically.

This image shows a highly modified SP Mk II but it demonstrates that a CL-360 can be centered if the slot in the bracket's "L" arm is lengthened:

IMAGE: http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5470/9119829670_6568c93c0b_o.jpg



  
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Aug 10, 2013 12:59 |  #2234

Looking for the dremel so I can try this. Thanks for the visual.




  
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Aug 10, 2013 18:34 |  #2235

Stunning image posted yesterday by Jesus Padilla:

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