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A New Bare Bulb Flash Arrives

 
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Oct 11, 2013 04:48 |  #2656

[QUOTE=mmmfotografie;1​6362402]

JESUS PADILLA wrote in post #16361955 (external link)
2 CHEETAH CL 360 USED LOVE THEM!!!!

Nice work Jesus. But please make clear what is so special about these flashes. Is it something special that other flashes can't do?

Deliver as good value for money.


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Oct 11, 2013 05:37 |  #2657

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mmmfotografie wrote in post #16362402 (external link)
Deliver as good value for money.

So do the Bowens and Canon flashes I own.




  
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Oct 11, 2013 06:42 |  #2658

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Mr DOHC wrote in post #16362436 (external link)
So do the Bowens and Canon flashes I own.

Well, the Canon aren't bare bulb and lack the power.


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Oct 11, 2013 07:09 |  #2659

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mmmfotografie wrote in post #16362477 (external link)
Well, the Canon aren't bare bulb and lack the power.

Canon can be modified to be bare bulb...however by doing this you loose other features of the flash. Power you need when there is a lot of ambient light present.




  
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Oct 11, 2013 07:47 |  #2660

Bare bulb flashes have a better quality of light-- and you would need about 6 speedlights to equal the power of 1 CL-360. That is a lot less stuff to be carrying around.


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Oct 11, 2013 08:14 |  #2661

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windpig wrote in post #16362539 (external link)
Canon can be modified to be bare bulb...however by doing this you loose other features of the flash. Power you need when there is a lot of ambient light present.

What's your success rate with a speedlight in a parabolic reflector?


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Oct 11, 2013 08:39 |  #2662

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If anybody is presenting a typical straw man argument here it is a man that hasn't even placed an order yet for some "virtual deal" that he might / might not receive that's talking to a man that has his gear already in hands for number of months now and is using it. Like I already said, let's talk again once you actually have something in hands for a while.

In the meantime please notice Amex might give you your money back but Amex will not send you replacement unit overnight if you need one.

I've placed an order. Amex will absolutely give me my money back if the item doesn't arrive. Anyone that's ever dealt with Amex knows this. I can buy 2 units for the same price and have a backup on site with me.

Which vendor is giving you a replacement order overnight if you need one?

Look, I'm sure if I paid for something and saw it potentially cheaper by 50% somewhere else I'd want to point out every potential pitfall as well.

If you're happy with your purchase, not sure why you'd even spend the time arguing about it online.


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Oct 11, 2013 09:32 |  #2663

silvrbullet wrote in post #16362623 (external link)
Bare bulb flashes have a better quality of light-- and you would need about 6 speedlights to equal the power of 1 CL-360. That is a lot less stuff to be carrying around.

Quality of light. I think the light emitted by a flashbulb for the AD/CL 180/360 is of the same quality as light emitted by a Canon flash bulb.

About six speedlights I can point at the ambient bit in my previous posting: https://photography-on-the.net …p=16362571&post​count=2659




  
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Oct 11, 2013 09:34 |  #2664

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mmmfotografie wrote in post #16362571 (external link)
What's your success rate with a speedlight in a parabolic reflector?

I don't have to put a speedlight in a parabolic reflector I can use it just like it is.




  
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Oct 11, 2013 09:57 |  #2665

mmmfotografie wrote in post #16362571 (external link)
Canon can be modified to be bare bulb...however by doing this you loose other features of the flash. Power you need when there is a lot of ambient light present.

I wouldn't destroy a 580exII to have bare bulb it would be wiser just to buy a cl-180 or cl-360. Plus there's a big difference between the output between the two. Its better to buy a item that is built the way you want then mod one and destroy the warranty.


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Oct 11, 2013 10:33 |  #2666

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JESUS PADILLA wrote in post #16361955 (external link)
2 CHEETAH CL 360 USED LOVE THEM!!!!

Nice work Jesus. But please make clear what is so special about these flashes. Is it something special that other flashes can't do?


They are just nice and lightweight and compact and easy to move around, and hand hold etc if needed. Not to mention great simple remote power control.

Don't you own one already though? (or is that another mmm username?)
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Oct 11, 2013 10:55 |  #2667

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Not to mention great simple remote power control.
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Dead-simple remote power control along with the higher power and bare-bulb makes these a great choice for Apollo-style softboxes. Much better than speedlites which won't give the same even light spread. Not to mention that you will have to fit more flashes into the modifier which may not be possible.


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Oct 11, 2013 10:58 |  #2668

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mmmfotografie wrote in post #16362402 (external link)
They are just nice and lightweight and compact and easy to move around, and hand hold etc if needed. Not to mention great simple remote power control.

Don't you own one already though? (or is that another mmm username?)
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Yes I own one as you can read three pages back and more pages before it.

That user name is unique on the world last time I checked and is standing for the first letters of my name folowed by the first letter of 'model' and the Dutch word for 'photography'

What you mention also goes for Quantum flashes but at considerable higher price.




  
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Oct 11, 2013 11:02 |  #2669

abbadon31 wrote in post #16362892 (external link)
I wouldn't destroy a 580exII to have bare bulb it would be wiser just to buy a cl-180 or cl-360. Plus there's a big difference between the output between the two. Its better to buy a item that is built the way you want then mod one and destroy the warranty.

I only pointed out that a speedlight can be modified to be a barebulb.

I did not know that there was a life-time warrenty on Canon stuff. ;)




  
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Oct 11, 2013 11:29 |  #2670

[QUOTE=mmmfotografie;1​6362402]

JESUS PADILLA wrote in post #16361955 (external link)
2 CHEETAH CL 360 USED LOVE THEM!!!!

Nice work Jesus. But please make clear what is so special about these flashes. Is it something special that other flashes can't do?

Well Basically Cheetah Lights Changed completely (for good ) the way i work..i am a wedding photographer,,and i need the best tools i might buy to make properly my job...i got in my bag 9 canon 580 EX II flashes, 4 Einstein and lots of modifiers, since i bought my cheetah lights i have not used my canon and Einstein any more...jejej i am not worried about charging a hundred batteries in the case of my canon flashes,,,i am not worried about recycling....i am not worried about carrying a lot of weight in the case of my einsteins,,,LOVE , LOVE my Cheetah Lights!...i used them the whole wedding and never run out batteries,,i used them at full power , minimum power and control everything from camera....CHEETAH LIGHTS are the lights i have been waiting!!....JUST LOVE THEM!

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