A New Bare Bulb Flash Arrives

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Dave Jr wrote in post #16408771
Jesus walks on water, I believe he's earned the right to type in all caps now and then

OH made my morning

off to pull my double shot and smile now thanks

hhahahahah

Hi folks,

I have read with great interest all of 202 pages within this topic.

This is a very interesting product and it has its uses, It seems to me that since it's an all manual unit, it's biggest selling point is that it can be used as an on-camera flash. However, since most, if not all of you don't use neither the CL180, nor the 360 on camera, I don't quite get why you wouldn't go for the less expensive offerings such as flashpoint or JTL DC capable monolights. I understand that portability and light weight are big issues, never the less, the flashpoints only weigh 4.5lbs, and whereas that's a lot more than the CL units, that's still not all that heavy and they're about half the price of the CL units and you don't have to lug brackets that make these units function like full fledged monolights.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the product or the folks using it, but since the Godox/Cheetah units don't have any of the auto modes (neither TTL nor Thyristor), that makes them so specialized that most folks don't need them, even the ones who buy them. They could achieve the same results, almost as conveniently for half the price, if not less.

What is it that I'm missing here?

Thanks

Dave Jr wrote in post #16408771
Jesus walks on water, I believe he's earned the right to type in all caps now and then

Jesus was on the right path and he needed a little push to keep him on on the right path. Then he can walk on water all the time.

Jesus makes divine work, but is also shouting it of the roof tops. We can certainly see it is divine however it would be nice to not have to wear ear-protection each time visiting thread topic.

AlexanderO wrote in post #16409485
Hi folks,

I have read with great interest all of 202 pages within this topic.

This is a very interesting product and it has its uses, It seems to me that since it's an all manual unit, it's biggest selling point is that it can be used as an on-camera flash. However, since most, if not all of you don't use neither the CL180, nor the 360 on camera, I don't quite get why you wouldn't go for the less expensive offerings such as flashpoint or JTL DC capable monolights. I understand that portability and light weight are big issues, never the less, the flashpoints only weigh 4.5lbs, and whereas that's a lot more than the CL units, that's still not all that heavy and they're about half the price of the CL units and you don't have to lug brackets that make these units function like full fledged monolights.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the product or the folks using it, but since the Godox/Cheetah units don't have any of the auto modes (neither TTL nor Thyristor), that makes them so specialized that most folks don't need them, even the ones who buy them. They could achieve the same results, almost as conveniently for half the price, if not less.

What is it that I'm missing here?

Thanks

Welcome to POTN with your first posting.

I started out with the camera and the flash on automatic. In time a wanted to control the settings and keep the exposure constant between pictures. So I went manually and used PocketWizards with an AC3 in manual mode and the camera also set to manual. I could now control the exposure and the amount of flash in the picture.

I only use TTL and when the situation is changing all the time and there is no time to change it manually. The risk is that each exposure is different to the others and you have to do a lot of work to make it a set of pictures.

Yes you can put the flash on the camera however is not light and 99.9% of the owners put the flash on a stand.

The set is ticking all the right boxes for medium and advanced users and we are waiting that the two available trigger releases are combined to one. You have read that you can also can use third-party releases.

butterfly2937 wrote in post #16409160
Would a softbox like this http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …50732&is=REG&Q=​&A=details
mount on a Cheetah Speed Pro Bracket MKII? What would I need to make it work?

Yes, you need a Bowens S adapter ring.

And, there are much more cost effective options. Fotodiox, Paul C Buff, and others.

abbadon31 wrote in post #16409118
Thanks you
a little pricey for just me needing a ring. I think I can go out to the shop and make some cheaper

Scott, if you are looking for an adapter that you can use for existing modifiers, just get the Mushroom from Cheetah. It has what amounts to an adapter ring as its base. Its held onto the translucent dome with three really small screws.

The ring's outer diameter is less than standard adapter rings but it can easily be attached to a larger adapter to fit the modifier you have in mind.

I am waiting for a Buff 11" reflector, when it arrives I'm going to attach an adapter and use it as a MaxiLite type reflector on the Cheetah Light.

I expect you could do pretty much the same thing with an adapter on your Eli Maxi.

Another option is to order the DA-03 from the distributor for the SMDV 70 soft box. It's price is about the same as a Cheetah Mushroom and it looks to be made from the same press mold as the back of the Mushroom less the cooling louvers.

dmward wrote in post #16409918
Yes, you need a Bowens S adapter ring.

And, there are much more cost effective options. Fotodiox, Paul C Buff, and others.

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …REG&si=rev#cost​umerReview

Is this it?

butterfly2937 wrote in post #16409938
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …REG&si=rev#cost​umerReview

Is this it?

Yes.

AlexanderO wrote in post #16409485
Hi folks,

I have read with great interest all of 202 pages within this topic.

This is a very interesting product and it has its uses, It seems to me that since it's an all manual unit, it's biggest selling point is that it can be used as an on-camera flash. However, since most, if not all of you don't use neither the CL180, nor the 360 on camera, I don't quite get why you wouldn't go for the less expensive offerings such as flashpoint or JTL DC capable monolights. I understand that portability and light weight are big issues, never the less, the flashpoints only weigh 4.5lbs, and whereas that's a lot more than the CL units, that's still not all that heavy and they're about half the price of the CL units and you don't have to lug brackets that make these units function like full fledged monolights.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the product or the folks using it, but since the Godox/Cheetah units don't have any of the auto modes (neither TTL nor Thyristor), that makes them so specialized that most folks don't need them, even the ones who buy them. They could achieve the same results, almost as conveniently for half the price, if not less.

What is it that I'm missing here?

Thanks

Light weight, high output, FP-sync, remote power control.

You read the whole thread and still had to ask?

dmward wrote in post #16409954
Yes.

How exactly are you using the Cheetah light with a Buff umbrella like softbox? It only has the Buff speedring already attached. What are you using to modify the existing speedring on a Buff foldable softbox? I like the umbrella style softboxes because they are quicker to set up than having to put rods in.

dmward wrote in post #16409930
if you are looking for an adapter that you can use for existing modifiers, just get the Mushroom from Cheetah. It has what amounts to an adapter ring as its base. Its held onto the translucent dome with three really small screws.

The ring's outer diameter is less than standard adapter rings but it can easily be attached to a larger adapter to fit the modifier you have in mind.

This sounds interesting. I've been tempted to pull the black snoot apart just to use the mount on a speedring disc.

What is the diameter roughly of the mushroom mount? Thanks.
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dmward wrote in post #16409957
Light weight, high output, FP-sync, remote power control.

You read the whole thread and still had to ask?

The high output and FP synch can be had with other, less expensive solutions. The weight issue is also a relative thing. We're talking about a 6 lb difference between lugging a set of 3 Godox lights vs a set of 3 Flashpoint lights. That's not that big of a deal.

Is the remote power control capability worth the $300-$400 price difference? Who in their right mind lugs so much equipment without an assistant? And if you have an assistant, you have remote power control

AlexanderO wrote in post #16410194
The high output and FP synch can be had with other, less expensive solutions. The weight issue is also a relative thing. We're talking about a 6 lb difference between lugging a set of 3 Godox lights vs a set of 3 Flashpoint lights. That's not that big of a deal.

Is the remote power control capability worth the $300-$400 price difference? Who in their right mind lugs so much equipment without an assistant? And if you have an assistant, you have remote power control

I think this image is one great example of why people want these lights -

JESUS PADILLA wrote in post #16406695

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Once the V850 is out a few of those will save a lot of gear as well, as three 360 would be enough, the rest could be smaller lights still.

Personally I would like to see a clip on battery for the 180 as well. No need for separate battery and cords there either (but you could still clip it off if you like).

These are so much less hassle to move around etc than a bigger monolight. They could certainly be refined with combined battery and neater full size mount etc though.
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v850 would be half the power of the 180?