A New Bare Bulb Flash Arrives

Stelter wrote in post #16542433
Thanks, will consider the cowboy studio bracket.

I know this is unrelated but I couldn't stop myself from wondering if I should get this... Jinbei sun 170 td umbrella. It should work just like para 177 from broncolor. The price is only 670 euro, plus there is a 30 days return policy, no questions asked.
Do you think I should buy it and see how it works? Or is the whole parabolic umbrella thing a marketing gimmick? Plus if I were to use my existing cheetah cl 360 units, would they be strong enough for it?

http://www.amazon.de …&psc=1&smid=ADR​27Q4NY3EUX

Can someone answer this?

I'm sure; not too many people own a Jinbei Para, but the Broncolor is no joke. The 360 will work as long as you can set the height of the flash to be center of the para. Paras are made and most effective if the light is dead center.

Stelter wrote in post #16542433
Thanks, will consider the cowboy studio bracket.

I know this is unrelated but I couldn't stop myself from wondering if I should get this... Jinbei sun 170 td umbrella. It should work just like para 177 from broncolor. The price is only 670 euro, plus there is a 30 days return policy, no questions asked.
Do you think I should buy it and see how it works? Or is the whole parabolic umbrella thing a marketing gimmick? Plus if I were to use my existing cheetah cl 360 units, would they be strong enough for it?

http://www.amazon.de …&psc=1&smid=ADR​27Q4NY3EUX

It looks like that would be a true parabolic reflector. It also looks like the light source can be focused. The 360, even a 180 would fill it properly, just not give you a lot light on the subject. If you need to shoot F16 at ISO 100 its probably going to take upwards of 1000Ws. Ir you can do F8 at ISO 200 you probably can use a 180.

Think I'll have to test it then, just hope it folds back nicely, don't have enough space to leave it open all the time.

Also I'm looking for a background reflector in a shovel form, like the elinchroms. Does anyone know of one that will natively support cheetah lights? Or any good ideas for mounting it on the cl360 without paying an extra 50-100$ for an adapter? Perhaps I can make one myself out of tinfoil?

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …lector_for_Elin​chrom.html

Stelter wrote in post #16543288
Think I'll have to test it then, just hope it folds back nicely, don't have enough space to leave it open all the time.

Also I'm looking for a background reflector in a shovel form, like the elinchroms. Does anyone know of one that will natively support cheetah lights? Or any good ideas for mounting it on the cl360 without paying an extra 50-100$ for an adapter? Perhaps I can make one myself out of tinfoil?

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …lector_for_Elin​chrom.html

I'd get something like THIS and then take one of THESE and duct tape them together.

Or, get one of THESE and cut it at a diagonal and cover the inside with alum tape.

Anyone here has used this BD before? (I haven't read through all the pages of this thread...)

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starlights - the 19" BD is excellent. I got mine from Cheetah and love it. Inner baffle, outer diffusion plus a grid makes it a good value. I leave one built on a CL360 every single shoot for tighter shots. When I need to jump to a 2 shot or a medium to wide portrait I use the Cheetah 33" or 28" Phottix. Just wish the larger dishes had grids available which is why I've been on the fence about the 43" and bigger boxes. I tend to use a 60" umbrella or 2x3 Chimera for groups or wides. I really just want a $100-150 43-45" collapsible BD/Octa that supports grids and various diff.

Starlights, love it.
I use a smaller deflection disk. Personal preference. Great modifier as default for the CL-s.

I also came across this. It's extremely cheap for its size 230cm. They also come in smaller sizes 120 and 90 and appear to have true parabolic shape. The advantage over the jinbei sun 170 would be I think the much lighter weight and much bigger size at an even lower price point. However there is no easy way to fold it up and down as it seems. Another disadvantage is that it cannot be focused, however as I understand it the parabolic umbrellas produce the most interesting light when fully focused and are no different than a regular umbrella when completely defocused ?
When I think of having to dismantle this monster every few days it gives me the creeps =p
What do you think?

http://www.dynalite.co​m/?page_id=2739

Ah. Checked the sizes and compared them to broncolor para. The bron para is much deeper than these, so I guess these rime lite umbrellas are not parabolic enough

Stelter wrote in post #16543952
I also came across this. It's extremely cheap for its size 230cm. They also come in smaller sizes 120 and 90 and appear to have true parabolic shape. The advantage over the jinbei sun 170 would be I think the much lighter weight and much bigger size at an even lower price point. However there is no easy way to fold it up and down as it seems. Another disadvantage is that it cannot be focused, however as I understand it the parabolic umbrellas produce the most interesting light when fully focused and are no different than a regular umbrella when completely defocused ?
When I think of having to dismantle this monster every few days it gives me the creeps =p
What do you think?

http://www.dynalite.co​m/?page_id=2739

Ah. Checked the sizes and compared them to broncolor para. The bron para is much deeper than these, so I guess these rime lite umbrellas are not parabolic enough

I've owned a 71" "Grand Box" for a few years now. As supplied, it's intended to be used in a conventional softbox configuration with the strobe mounted at the rear and facing forward toward the front baffle (unlike a Bron Para):

Wonderful post, tetrode! Just a few questions…

tetrode wrote in post #16544776
I've owned a 71" "Grand Box" ....

Is that measured across the face (diameter), or around the circumference (as with some umbrellas)?

tetrode wrote in post #16544776
The 16 rods are not numbered so it can be challenging trying to get them in the proper holes in the speed ring. I finally numbered the rods in my Grand Box with numbers indicating the order in which they should be inserted in the ring. In other words, rod #1 is directly opposite rod #2, etc.

I’m confused… All my softbox rods are the same length, and therefore I don't need to place specific rods in specific holes on the speedring. Could you elaborate?

tetrode wrote in post #16544776
I do have a way of mounting a CL-360 in my Grand Box. If I feel motivated, I'll post an image of the setup along with some meter readings.

Yes, please do!

No wonder the International Space Station is having problems, Dave swiped one their solar collectors. Goodness that thing is wild looking, the 72" Eli Octabank doesn't look that imposing on the inside.

Meddin Studios wrote in post #16543889
starlights - the 19" BD is excellent. I got mine from Cheetah and love it. Inner baffle, outer diffusion plus a grid makes it a good value. I leave one built on a CL360 every single shoot for tighter shots. When I need to jump to a 2 shot or a medium to wide portrait I use the Cheetah 33" or 28" Phottix. Just wish the larger dishes had grids available which is why I've been on the fence about the 43" and bigger boxes. I tend to use a 60" umbrella or 2x3 Chimera for groups or wides. I really just want a $100-150 43-45" collapsible BD/Octa that supports grids and various diff.

dmward wrote in post #16543893
Starlights, love it.
I use a smaller deflection disk. Personal preference. Great modifier as default for the CL-s.

Thank you! I ordered one via ebay - surprisingly i couldn't find it on CS website - perhaps discontinued there?

Over 4000 shots and 55 days after getting the 360 I finally put it on the charger to night and it only dropped 2 bars for charge from factory. Thats pretty insane

abbadon31 wrote in post #16547882
Over 4000 shots and 55 days after getting the 360 I finally put it on the charger to night and it only dropped 2 bars for charge from factory. Thats pretty insane

WOW very impressive numbers!!