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Jun 22, 2014 22:44 |  #4606

lz7j wrote in post #16988496 (external link)
Hi, just a quick tip: don't attach a yn622 on the flash itself. Use the standard Godox receiver on the flash, make sure to mount the Godox transmitter on top a yn622 and place the entire contraption on top of your cameras hot shoe. Also, make sure hss is enabled on the ad360. On my Nikon system, this method works flawlessly - I have full hss all the way to 1/8000 and have flash power adjustment from 1/8 to full power.

That works with Nikon, but with Canon you need to use a PC sync cord to connect the YN-622C transmitter to the FT-16 transmitter, or you won't get the pre-sync signal. I wrote about that here (external link).
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Jun 22, 2014 23:45 |  #4607

Illamasqua Plunge wrote in post #16987098 (external link)
I'm not sure how you would expect to use a "chart" to replace a light meter. You only listed two of the factors that contribute to frame exposure. Besides the size of your aperture and iso, you also have to consider the total contribution of all other extraneous light, as well as the distance between the light source you wish to adjust and your subject. If the relative intensity of extraneous light is significant, then even your shutter speed can have a visually significant impact on your final frame exposure. Perhaps you should clarify how you intend to use such a "chart".

If all you want is a tabular list of f/stops to help you quickly determine how much aperture adjustment to make (in order to achieve a particular reduction/augmentation of light), here you go:

(2^0)=1
(2^0.5)=1.4
(2^1)=2
(2^1.5)=2.8
(2^2)=4
(2^2.5)=5.6
(2^3)=8
(2^3.5)=11.3
(2^4)=16
(2^4.5)=22.6
(2^5)=32
(2^5.5)=45.2
(2^6)=64
etc.

What I am interested in is what power Ill need to get an exposure I like based on a given iso/ fstop as well as a predetermined distance. A meter can give me a power percentage, it can tell me a recommended shutter speed, or, it can tell me a recommended fstop; it cannot tell me what to set my flash at (or, at least at the time I had one, I wasn't able to figure that out). In the meantime, a chart like the one Scott presented can get me that approximation; albeit, it presents 1/3 stops whereas I wanted one that could give me full stops ( using full stops are not as precise of course, but they are easier for me to work with). Shutter speed to control the ambient is to taste, so it doesn't hold as much weight in this particular process.

So, for example, if I want to illuminate my subject at f11, iso 200, at approx. 8ft with my bare 580exII, im probably setting my flash power @ 1/4 power, or thereabouts. If I want to illuminate my subject at f4, iso 100 with a shoot-thru umbrella, at 8ft, Im probably starting @ 1/16, then bumping up 2 stops because I lose about 2 stops shooting thru an umbrella, which leads me to an approx. power setting of 1/4 or thereabouts. Or, I can simply move the umbrella forward 3-4 ft closer to my subject to stay at 1/16 or thereabouts. Took me a while to kinda grasp all that.

Of course, that's with one or more of my speedlites in manual. A 360 isn't a speedlite, it is the equivalent of about 4-speedlites which makes it much more powerful. And even though I was able to work out the speedlite thing, Im having a more challenging time working out the 360 since all the numbers Im reading here vary from one person to another. Call me lazy, but I wanted a simple solution so I can get up and running as fast as possible with this light. Which is why I posted the question in the first place.


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Jun 23, 2014 09:22 |  #4608

Josh Young wrote in post #16988506 (external link)
Great images! Did you use any modifier, and also, did you use two composite shot to get the look so that you can keep the flash close to the couple?

Hi Josh- unfortunately, due to the luggage restriction for this particular flight/destination, I could not bring any of my apollo type modifiers - I used the stock reflector without the diffuser.

The first image by the dock, I was 21 feet away from the subject and the light was at my 4 o'clock position roughly 6-7 feet away from me.
On the image below, you can see where I've placed the light on camera left. The dynamic range on my D4 allows me to pull the highlights and push the shadows to create an almost HDR look without photoshop

IMAGE: http://www.nikkophotography.com/rfd/e-k+j_nikkophotography-3.jpg



elv wrote in post #16988508 (external link)
That works with Nikon, but with Canon you need to use a PC sync cord to connect the YN-622C transmitter to the FT-16 transmitter, or you won't get the pre-sync signal. I wrote about that here (external link).
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Hi Elv, thanks for the clarification! btw, I love your site.


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Jun 23, 2014 12:35 |  #4609

Iz7j do you have any of the Godox /Cheetahlight accessories sized specifically for the lights - e.g.
- AD-S6 Umbrella-Style Reflector for WITSTRO
- ADS17 Wide Angle Soft Focus Shade Diffuser

Just wondering as they are small - which is great for travel and close in work, but can't entirely replace larger accessories and modifiers - especially since the S-Type Speedlite bracket easily opens up the use of Bowens fit modifiers.

And now Godox has announced the S-EC Speedlite Bracket for Elinchrom accessories
http://www.godox.com …e_Bracket_Newsl​etter.html (external link)




  
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Jun 23, 2014 12:42 |  #4610

SamFrench wrote in post #16989684 (external link)
And now Godox has announced the S-EC Speedlite Bracket for Elinchrom accessories
http://www.godox.com …e_Bracket_Newsl​etter.html (external link)

Thank you for posting this link.


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Jun 23, 2014 12:54 |  #4611

Got to love the Pro E speed bracket, same construction as the S. Small portable and fits in the camera bag.


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Jun 23, 2014 13:17 |  #4612

abbadon31 wrote in post #16989717 (external link)
Got to love the Pro E speed bracket, same construction as the S. Small portable and fits in the camera bag.

That is so cool.
Now I can use PLMs with CL lights without having to modify Buff mount.


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Jun 23, 2014 14:03 |  #4613

Any link to the Pro E speed bracket, I wanna be sure we're talking the same thing.

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Jun 23, 2014 14:15 |  #4614

windpig wrote in post #16989829 (external link)
Any link to the Pro E speed bracket, I wanna be sure we're talking the same thing.

thnx

S stands for bowens S mount
E stands for Elinchrom mount

Come on Ralph get it together man. ;)


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Jun 23, 2014 14:25 |  #4615

lz7j wrote in post #16989254 (external link)
Hi Josh- unfortunately, due to the luggage restriction for this particular flight/destination, I could not bring any of my apollo type modifiers - I used the stock reflector without the diffuser.

The first image by the dock, I was 21 feet away from the subject and the light was at my 4 o'clock position roughly 6-7 feet away from me.
On the image below, you can see where I've placed the light on camera left. The dynamic range on my D4 allows me to pull the highlights and push the shadows to create an almost HDR look without photoshop

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Awesome. Thanks for the explanation.




  
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Jun 23, 2014 16:14 |  #4616

Another from Lanzarote, used a wistro AD360 and Diff. 70 Octa.

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Jun 23, 2014 17:59 |  #4617

^^ Nice Work!!


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Jun 23, 2014 18:22 |  #4618

SamFrench wrote in post #16989684 (external link)
Iz7j do you have any of the Godox /Cheetahlight accessories sized specifically for the lights - e.g.
- AD-S6 Umbrella-Style Reflector for WITSTRO
- ADS17 Wide Angle Soft Focus Shade Diffuser

Just wondering as they are small - which is great for travel and close in work, but can't entirely replace larger accessories and modifiers - especially since the S-Type Speedlite bracket easily opens up the use of Bowens fit modifiers.

I've ordered the ad-s7 and a couple of double folded umbrellas to complement my nano stands for destination weddings. I have a dozen PCB modifiers for my Einstein's. I'm waiting for Godox to come out with a balcar s-type bracket. For now, my phottix apollo style modifiers are working beautifully with my wistro 360's.


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Jun 24, 2014 05:09 |  #4619

Cl-600 and Cl-360

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Jun 24, 2014 07:23 |  #4620

Scott,
any chance to voluntered to be her assistant under the ground there ?


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