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Jul 06, 2015 22:11 |  #5941

Actually it a delayed firing signal but close enuff for me I get what your laying down


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Jul 07, 2015 00:22 |  #5942

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17623086 (external link)
that works but sitting on top the 622 doesn't pass the early fire signal to the FT-16 for HSS.

right?

Correct. You need to trigger the FT-16 from the YN-622 sync port if you want HSS.


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Jul 07, 2015 00:32 |  #5943

abbadon31 wrote in post #17623150 (external link)
Actually it a delayed firing signal but close enuff for me I get what your laying down

if standard sync waits until the shutter is fully open before firing the signal, doesn't that mean that the HSS/hypersync signal is sent before the shutter is open?

that is earlier, no?


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Jul 07, 2015 01:07 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #5944

^^ right.
The FP sync sends the fire signal before the shutter opens.
This was done with flash bulbs so that the "flat burn" bulbs could burn up to peak output before the shutter started to travel. They then continued to burn for the duration of the shutter travel across the focal plane.
The technology was initially developed for 4x5 cameras used for news reporting. I don't know for sure, but I think the travel time was more than 1/30 second.

HSS technologies built into current day cameras use a different method to get the continuous light output but still expect the trigger signal to fire the strobe before the lead shutter curtain begins its travel.


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Jul 07, 2015 04:41 |  #5945

I have a couple of 360's I am wanting to add to with maybe a bigger/stronger unit. Is there a FAQ around to explain options and trigger compatabilities and such?




  
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Jul 07, 2015 06:30 as a reply to  @ Drk Orange's post |  #5946

Hey neighbour ...
I have a similar setup - AD360's + V850 and have just added Jinbei 600 HD II to the mix - all these can be easily triggered using the Cells II incl 'HSS' and the Jinbei in the shoe of the Cells or if you already have Yn622 triggers then these can be used but will need a Sync cord for 'HSS'.

FlashHavoc has some good examples on option.
http://flashhavoc.com/​yn622c_review/ (external link)


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Jul 07, 2015 06:53 |  #5947

I just use my Canon ST-E3-RT to trigger all my flashes. My 600RT, my 360s and my B800s all using the YNE3-RX

Works like a champ and can fire the 600s and 360s in HSS at same time.


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Jul 07, 2015 07:03 |  #5948

GregDunn wrote in post #17622873 (external link)
You can stack the CL-Tx on top of the YN622C and fire everything, if needed. I am currently doing this because I have some speedlights I use for fill. Less elegant than having everything on one trigger system, but the flexibility exists.

I was under the impression that with the CL you could get HSS without the need of an intermediary 622. The 622 was only necessary if you were using an F transmitter.


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Jul 07, 2015 09:25 |  #5949

travisvwright wrote in post #17623478 (external link)
I was under the impression that with the CL you could get HSS without the need of an intermediary 622. The 622 was only necessary if you were using an F transmitter.

I guess I wasn't clear; I'm using the 622 to trigger a couple of speedlights for fill, using remote manual control. I don't currently use HSS in shoots where I have both the CL360 and speedlights set up.


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Jul 07, 2015 09:58 |  #5950

Drk Orange wrote in post #17623410 (external link)
I have a couple of 360's I am wanting to add to with maybe a bigger/stronger unit. Is there a FAQ around to explain options and trigger compatabilities and such?

this uses the same triggering system as the 360/180 with twice the power: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1375268

travisvwright wrote in post #17623478 (external link)
I was under the impression that with the CL you could get HSS without the need of an intermediary 622. The 622 was only necessary if you were using an F transmitter.

there must be something in the camera hotshoe that makes the camera think there is a HSS capable flash on top. The standard FT-16 will not do that, the 622, among others will do that.


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Jul 07, 2015 12:43 |  #5951

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #17623289 (external link)
if standard sync waits until the shutter is fully open before firing the signal, doesn't that mean that the HSS/hypersync signal is sent before the shutter is open?

that is earlier, no?

It is earlier compared to normal trigger moment. To have a optimal timing the first curtian will start to travel and the moment the second curtian is starting to follow it is the moment to trigger the flash or start pulsing it, if HSS.

If the camera becomes above x-sync it is like you squeeze your eyelids and you are looking through the slit between the eyelids. The trick of the camera is that it can move the slit from top to bottom.




  
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Jul 07, 2015 14:50 |  #5952

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Having the battery at full charge is not favourable for the lifetime of the battery.

To clarify this claim, I am a little behind on my battery management theory but usually discharging the battery pack to below 30% is not a good idea (although a battery pack with a management circuit largely negates that problem) and only charging up to 80% extends battery life. (with the same caveat)

Storing fully charged batteries or allowing them to self-discharge to below 30% while in storage causes no harm - it is the act of sucking electricity out when they are nearly empty that can damage them, or pushing electricity in when they are nearly full on a regular basis that can shorten their lifespan.




  
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Jul 17, 2015 04:01 |  #5953

My battery is pretty much dead after 1 year of very light use.

I was trying to get replacement from eachshot but got this message:

unfortunately, the Godox PB960 backup extra Battery Pack is Belong to the pure battery,
so that we can't send it via any shipping method.

Has anyone (in europe) bought extra batteries online?

This is just the battery (about 50$), not the whole pack.


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Jul 17, 2015 04:17 as a reply to  @ Nonnit's post |  #5954

You can buy them in The Netherlands.

www dot Kamera-express dot nl
www dot Cameranu dot nl

Search for PB960

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Jul 17, 2015 10:04 |  #5955

Shot this last year and Micheal the Mentor just released it. Great info and I laugh at myself because I couldn't get my words out.



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