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Jan 31, 2013 13:33 |  #1

My rebel fit in my chest pack with the 70-200 with hood on, but my 1D does not. Leaving the hood on allows me to skip the lens cap for the day w/out scratching lens in bag.

I figured I would just put my 17-55 hood on my 70-200 (shorter and will accomodate 1D + lens + hood), but it frustratingly doesn't fit.

So, is there a cheap solution for a shorter hood? Knockoff that will fit, but is shorter, or should I get a full-sized hood and cut it down?

Any DIY ideas? Gaffer tape and section from a plastic peanut butter jar? Hell cheap hoods cost about the same as gaffer tape (don't have any yet).

I'm not as interested in lighting benefits of the full hood (or I wouldn't be considering these options).


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Jan 31, 2013 13:41 |  #2

I'd get a knockoff ebay hood and chop it down. Having a proper bayonet mount would likely be much more solid for your weighty lens/body combo to rest on than a taped solution.


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Jan 31, 2013 14:58 |  #3

Sounds good. I nabbed one for $2.50 shipped. Holy crap that's cheap. I'll mount it on a square jig in my shop and cut it with a band saw to make the cut end is flat and level, then file/sand/melt the edges.

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Jan 31, 2013 16:03 |  #4

Just reverse the hood and put the lens cap on...


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Jan 31, 2013 16:05 |  #5

waterrockets wrote in post #15556917 (external link)
Sounds good. I nabbed one for $2.50 shipped. Holy crap that's cheap. I'll mount it on a square jig in my shop and cut it with a band saw to make the cut end is flat and level, then file/sand/melt the edges.

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Wow. How is that even possible? It's like the China postal service pays the shippers!


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Jan 31, 2013 16:21 |  #6

waterrockets wrote in post #15556598 (external link)
My rebel fit in my chest pack with the 70-200 with hood on, but my 1D does not. Leaving the hood on allows me to skip the lens cap for the day w/out scratching lens in bag.

I figured I would just put my 17-55 hood on my 70-200 (shorter and will accomodate 1D + lens + hood), but it frustratingly doesn't fit.

So, is there a cheap solution for a shorter hood? Knockoff that will fit, but is shorter, or should I get a full-sized hood and cut it down?
Any DIY ideas? Gaffer tape and section from a plastic peanut butter jar? Hell cheap hoods cost about the same as gaffer tape (don't have any yet).

I'm not as interested in lighting benefits of the full hood (or I wouldn't be considering these options).

Amazon may have a solution. (external link)




  
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Jan 31, 2013 19:14 |  #7

waterrockets wrote in post #15556917 (external link)
Sounds good. I nabbed one for $2.50 shipped. Holy crap that's cheap. I'll mount it on a square jig in my shop and cut it with a band saw to make the cut end is flat and level, then file/sand/melt the edges.

Thanks!

That's what I did for my 100 IS Macro.
For a little more money, but still cheap, it even came with the internal felt lining, like the original hood.




  
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Jan 31, 2013 22:18 |  #8

Tim S wrote in post #15557151 (external link)
Just reverse the hood and put the lens cap on...

I'm pretty good at skiing backwards, but fidgeting with parts is not really practical. The way I do this is ski a bit ahead of my kids, spin around, decide if I have a shot. If so, unzip chest pack, pull, fire, drop it back in, zip, turn around, and ski. I stop to take shots too, but I'm really just using the pack as a big lens/camera cap. I only want one step between skiing and shooting. Worked great with the Rebel last year, and I may end up using it anyway this year... but I'm liking the 1D so much...

Nightdiver13 wrote in post #15557159 (external link)
Wow. How is that even possible? It's like the China postal service pays the shippers!

You got me. Just nuts. Granted, once you have the form, it's probably a $0.12 part, but goodness.

I wonder when people will just scan OEM parts, then 3D print a mold for an exact copy. No real skill required.


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That's what I did for my 100 IS Macro.
For a little more money, but still cheap, it even came with the internal felt lining, like the original hood.

FWIW: you can buy flocking paper in sheets. It's used inside telescopes to prevent loss of contrast from internal reflections: http://www.kendrickast​ro.com/astro/protostar​.html (external link)


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Feb 01, 2013 01:46 |  #9

IF it's just for pretection, I'd get a shorty metal screw in hood.

Like so: http://www.ebay.com …ain_0&hash=item​19cd18aad8 (external link)

Or maybe a little longer.

And I don't hate the chinese, I Just hate waiting for shipping. Usually you can find it in the US for a couple bucks more and get it in a week vs 2-3.


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Feb 01, 2013 07:48 |  #10

That's a good idea too. I didn't know they had those. I already ordered the plastic one though, and cutting it in the shop is more fun than it is work.


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Feb 01, 2013 08:27 |  #11

Here's another option that I've used:

http://www.camera-filters.com/pages/lens​hoods.htm (external link)


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Feb 01, 2013 08:34 |  #12

Nice. Those might be a better long-term solution. Just pull the camera out of the bag and extend the hood if needed, shove back in bag and it will collapse. Thanks!

Question: do those rubber hoods attach with the normal hood mechanism? Is there a plastic ring in there for this?


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Feb 01, 2013 10:04 |  #13

I like the idea of the collapsible rubber hood, but might that defeat the purpose?

I would want the hood to remain (somewhat) extended in the bag to protect the front element. If it collapses too far when in the bag, the front element could get scratched, right? I guess it comes down to the minimum length when collapsed.

I'm interested in the same thing, as I ski a lot and want to shorten this process. Fiddling with the lens cap is annoying, especially on the hill in the snow!




  
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Feb 01, 2013 11:12 |  #14

My plan is to get my new hood, cut it, and see how I like it. I'll post back in here on how it went -- I need to make sure to test-cut closer to the end to make sure the plastic doesn't try to shatter like pvc pipe does on a compound miter saw, for instance.

On the rubber hoods, you're right though, even if it's still a bit extended when fully collapsed, it may not be rigid enough to keep the filter ring off the bottom of the bag, and that remaining 5mm of clearance to glass is not comforting. The weight of a 1D plus a reasonably heavy lens may be asking a lot of that rubber hood.


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Feb 01, 2013 15:23 |  #15

Rubber hoods offer no protection at all for the front element if you have no lens cap on. They will fold completely back and the front of the glass would be basically touching the bottom of the bag.


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