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Feb 01, 2013 09:37 |  #1

Hi

i own a 5d mark 2 , 9 cross type focus points ,and i used it a lot

i'm undecided about buy a second body

i did think about the 6d and its 11 focus points (only the ceter is coss type)

i had a 6d in my hand , i played with it for a while ,and i liked the ergonomic , but i had no time to test the focus system


in short are they (6d the focusing points ) more accurate then the 5d mark2?

i shoot almost everything outside sport and birds

can the 6d be a great second body ? reliable and with an accurate focus system ?

or should i think only to the 5d mark3 ?

i did not find an exhaustive 6d full review

ps i read that the 6d weather sealing is the same of the 5d mark3 ,is right?

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Feb 01, 2013 16:47 |  #2

If the 5d2 AF worked for you, the 6d AF will work (even better according to reviews). If the 5d2 AF was far too slow or limited you too much then the 5d3 would be the better choice. My .02


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Feb 01, 2013 18:13 |  #3

AF is a bit better than your 5DII (much better in very low light). Weather sealing is not the same as the 5DIII. The 6D lacks sealing of any kind on the shutter button and mode dial, and the rear control dial is not as well sealed as the 5DIII. The other parts are sealed to the same level as the 5DIII.


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Feb 01, 2013 18:20 |  #4

Here are a couple reviews that you might find helpful:
http://the-digital-picture.com …al-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx (external link)
And
http://www.dpreview.co​m/previews/canon-eos-6d/ (external link)


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Feb 01, 2013 18:26 |  #5

I never had mkII but in my limited testinc scenario of Best Buy I found the AF is something that I did not want to deal with a few months down the road when I wanted to shoot moving objects. MkIII should arrive tomorrow. If my budget was tighter I would have gone with a 6d and maybe a used 7d down the line if I got into action shots




  
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Feb 01, 2013 18:35 |  #6

mantra wrote in post #15559809 (external link)
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i own a 5d mark 2 , 9 cross type focus points ,and i used it a lot

I'm not sure if you're confused, or if I'm reading it wrong.. but the 5D Mk II has a single (1) cross-type AF point, not 9. This is the same with the 6D, though the 6D's cross-type AF (center point) is sensitive to -3EV, where as the 5D Mk II is sensitive to -2EV.


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Feb 01, 2013 18:50 |  #7
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Sirrith wrote in post #15561836 (external link)
AF is a bit better than your 5DII (much better in very low light). Weather sealing is not the same as the 5DIII. The 6D lacks sealing of any kind on the shutter button and mode dial, and the rear control dial is not as well sealed as the 5DIII. The other parts are sealed to the same level as the 5DIII.

Not sure where these "thoughts" on weather protection come from. No documents from Canon state this. You be the judge...Canon says the two cameras are equally protected and there ARE documents referenced in this thread from Canon saying as much... believe them or not...your choice.

https://photography-on-the.net …7725&highlight=​6D+weather


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Feb 01, 2013 19:03 |  #8

Bakewell wrote in post #15561953 (external link)
Not sure where these "thoughts" on weather protection come from. No documents from Canon state this. You be the judge...Canon says the two cameras are equally protected and there ARE documents referenced in this thread from Canon saying as much... believe them or not...your choice.

https://photography-on-the.net …7725&highlight=​6D+weather

I've already posted this, you seemed incapable of understanding. Others pointed out that the Canon statements do not actually say they have the same level of sealing, merely that the same sealing is used on the parts of the 6D that do have sealing. You chose to ignore them. I left the thread because you were being stubborn and unreasonable, so I don't know what happened after that.

This diagram is from Canon themselves, printed, published, and distributed to press and consumers which as I have said in the other thread, and will say again now, is far more credible than a statement on a website which is likely not proofread or edited with anywhere near as much care.

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As you can see, no sealing under the shutter button, no sealing under the mode dial (only a little bit of protection under the locking button), one gasket and one "green" on the rear control dial.

Compare and contrast with the 5DIII diagram, you'll notice a gasket under the shutter button, a gasket under the mode dial, 2 gaskets and a "green" under the rear control dial:
http://forums.dpreview​.com …t5LpOnWrMdVLjYF​xOn1eqbM0= (external link)

*green indicates precision fitted parts/interlocking parts, not as good as a gasket (red), but better than nothing

I will not reply to any more of your messages as I am just going to be repeating myself based on what happened in the other thread.

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Feb 01, 2013 20:23 |  #9

I've shot all kinds of sports with mine since I got it.If it will shoot basketball it will shoot anything albiet a little slow.Here's some of the 6D's pics.Here's a page I do for a high scool.
https://www.facebook.c​om …7083239250?ref=​ts&fref=ts (external link)


6D|7D|7DMKII|Nikon D750|Nikon 85 F1.8|Nikon D5500|G15| Gripped|300F4|35F2IS|8​5 F1.8|135L F2|200L F2.8|17-55 F2.8|70-200L F2.8 MKII|430EX|
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Feb 01, 2013 21:43 |  #10

mantra wrote in post #15559809 (external link)
i shoot almost everything outside sport and birds

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In my opinion, the OP should be using a 7D for these subjects. Better focusing system than the 6D, plus extra reach. Full frame has its advantages, but for these subjects, crop would do better.


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Feb 01, 2013 21:46 |  #11

tgara wrote in post #15562460 (external link)
In my opinion, the OP should be using a 7D for these subjects. Better focusing system than the 6D, plus extra reach. Full frame has its advantages, but for these subjects, crop would do better.

I interpret that phrase as meaning the OP shoots almost everything except sports and birds.


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Feb 02, 2013 00:43 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #12

BrickR wrote in post #15561555 (external link)
If the 5d2 AF worked for you, the 6d AF will work (even better according to reviews). If the 5d2 AF was far too slow or limited you too much then the 5d3 would be the better choice. My .02

thanks
about the 5d3 i was doubtful, dubious
i would like to have some feedbacks about users about the 6d Af

BrandonSi wrote in post #15561905 (external link)
I'm not sure if you're confused, or if I'm reading it wrong.. but the 5D Mk II has a single (1) cross-type AF point, not 9. This is the same with the 6D, though the 6D's cross-type AF (center point) is sensitive to -3EV, where as the 5D Mk II is sensitive to -2EV.

i did not know about the 5d mark 2 single (1) cross -type af point

but do the 40D/50D have 9 cross type points, don' they?


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Feb 02, 2013 00:46 |  #13

mantra wrote in post #15562899 (external link)
but do the 40D/50D have 9 cross type points, don' they?

Yes.


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Feb 02, 2013 01:00 as a reply to  @ mantra's post |  #14

Sirrith wrote in post #15561988 (external link)
This diagram is from Canon themselves, printed, published, and distributed to press and consumers which as I have said in the other thread, and will say again now, is far more credible than a statement on a website which is likely not proofread or edited with anywhere near as much care.
I will not reply to any more of your messages as I am just going to be repeating myself based on what happened in the other thread.

thanks
i was sure about the same sealing because i read almost in evey review
but really thanks, now i know the true about the sealing!

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I've shot all kinds of sports with mine since I got it.If it will shoot basketball it will shoot anything albiet a little slow.Here's some of the 6D's pics.Here's a page I do for a high school.
https://www.facebook.c​om …her-Pride/335097083239250 (external link)

i don't know but i can't open the link
it opens my page of facebook :(
but i would really see such pic
i watched a review tutorial on you tube , where the 6d was no capable to take a photo of a running girl in focus

Sirrith wrote in post #15562477 (external link)
I interpret that phrase as meaning the OP shoots almost everything except sports and birds.

yes , i don't shoot sport and bird
i don't like 1.6 sensor , i think they are at the end , i mean i don't like the image quality , noise , and lack of details (in my opinion) of sensor like 7d and i used canon L lenses

i used a 5d mark 3 ,and i had a talk with a pro shooter

the 5d mark3 sometime doesn't focus correctly for example night and still group (like the parents of the marriage) and some time i found micro out of focus and in some photos i found some halos (like steamy, blear, cloudy )


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Feb 02, 2013 07:07 |  #15

mantra wrote in post #15562938 (external link)
thanks
i was sure about the same sealing because i read almost in evey review
but really thanks, now i know the true about the sealing!


i don't know but i can't open the link
it opens my page of facebook :(
but i would really see such pic
i watched a review tutorial on you tube , where the 6d was no capable to take a photo of a running girl in focus


yes , i don't shoot sport and bird
i don't like 1.6 sensor , i think they are at the end , i mean i don't like the image quality , noise , and lack of details (in my opinion) of sensor like 7d and i used canon L lenses

i used a 5d mark 3 ,and i had a talk with a pro shooter

the 5d mark3 sometime doesn't focus correctly for example night and still group (like the parents of the marriage) and some time i found micro out of focus and in some photos i found some halos (like steamy, blear, cloudy )

Link fixed.


6D|7D|7DMKII|Nikon D750|Nikon 85 F1.8|Nikon D5500|G15| Gripped|300F4|35F2IS|8​5 F1.8|135L F2|200L F2.8|17-55 F2.8|70-200L F2.8 MKII|430EX|
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