what do you think about the 6d af?

OP check out this thread where the author tracked an eagle in flight.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1258444

I do understand that you don't shoot sports or birds but I had to share that link to show that the 6d is in fact capable in the focusing dept.

The 6d's center point does very well in low light. Look at the 6d discussion thread for MSNR shots that were taken in very low light situations.

The outer points tend to not lock focus in very low light scenes but then in those cases, I use the center point.

francis_a wrote in post #15563744
OP check out this thread where the author tracked an eagle in flight.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1258444

I do understand that you don't shoot sports or birds but I had to share that link to show that the 6d is in fact capable in the focusing dept.

The 6d's center point does very well in low light. Look at the 6d discussion thread for MSNR shots that were taken in very low light situations.

The outer points tend to not lock focus in very low light scenes but then in those cases, I use the center point.

hi Francis
thanks , amazing , i mean i don't shoot birds
but once i tried to take some shots about a fooball match , using my 5d mark2 center point , servo , i did not get a sharp picture
and i used the 70-200 2.8 II is

Hi Mantra

FWIW I had a choice of waiting for the 6D or getting a 5D3. Did the latter and never looked back. I shoot events in the main and having those extra AF points ( 61 of which 41 are cross type ) make a big difference to merely having to rely on center point and recomposing. If you shoot still subjects and landscapes, the 6D would be fine but if you shoot people doing things, I think a 6D may be a touch limited. The 5D3 is certainly a much more versatile body than the 6D and the latter while more advanced than the 5D2 under low light conditions by being more sensitive and with that extra stop or two is not as versatile than a 5D3. It depends on what you need. If you can live with a 6D then you'll have saved yourself some cash for some glass perhaps. If not then you may end up wishing you ought to have gone for a 5D3 instead. The matter of sealing may also be of consideration to you. Is there anywhere you you can get to try out both bodies?

Houston1863 wrote in post #15568857
Hi Mantra

FWIW I had a choice of waiting for the 6D or getting a 5D3. Did the latter and never looked back. I shoot events in the main and having those extra AF points ( 61 of which 41 are cross type ) make a big difference to merely having to rely on center point and recomposing. If you shoot still subjects and landscapes, the 6D would be fine but if you shoot people doing things, I think a 6D may be a touch limited. The 5D3 is certainly a much more versatile body than the 6D and the latter while more advanced than the 5D2 under low light conditions by being more sensitive and with that extra stop or two is not as versatile than a 5D3. It depends on what you need. If you can live with a 6D then you'll have saved yourself some cash for some glass perhaps. If not then you may end up wishing you ought to have gone for a 5D3 instead. The matter of sealing may also be of consideration to you. Is there anywhere you you can get to try out both bodies?

thanks
what i don't like about the 6d is the slow flash sync , about the 2 bodies
i tried as well the 5d mark3 ,because almost every friends own one
about th 6d i know nobody that bought it

I was debating this myself and I went with the 5D3. I went walking around the las vegas strip last night with it and found that the focusing was WAY faster than my 60d, I was having trouble focusing on some things while in the store testing the 6d. The flash sync speed didn't bother me much as I could just make other adjustments to compensate, but would be nice for more. Between the sync speed, slower max shutter speed, and the focus system led me to just bite the bullet and get 5d3. I have a lot to learn and a lot of camera to grow into now and am happy with decision.

mantra wrote in post #15569756
thanks
what i don't like about the 6d is the slow flash sync , about the 2 bodies
i tried as well the 5d mark3 ,because almost every friends own one
about th 6d i know nobody that bought it

That's a good point too and again reinforces the argument as to why Canon places the 5D3 in the first category of it's CPS support structure while the 6D is in the third. I'd be interested to see how many professionals would be confident with working with a 6D in preference to a 5D3. Not dissing the 6D, merely saying that these are different bodies in their own right.

Pure speculation:
I think most people would likely prefer to have the 5D3. I'm guessing many of those who choose the 6D, instead, do so because of the price difference.

On the other hand, there are probably plenty of people who prefer the 6D's lighter weight, wi-fi, GPS, high ISO performance, low light sensitivity, etc. If for some reason you are one of those who needs these features or is able to utilize these regularly, the 6D might be the better choice.

Like I said, pure speculation, just thinking out loud...

tjbrock42 wrote in post #15571443
Pure speculation:
I think most people would likely prefer to have the 5D3. I'm guessing many of those who choose the 6D, instead, do so because of the price difference.

On the other hand, there are probably plenty of people who prefer the 6D's lighter weight, wi-fi, GPS, high ISO performance, low light sensitivity, etc. If for some reason you are one of those who needs these features or is able to utilize these regularly, the 6D might be the better choice.

Like I said, pure speculation, just thinking out loud...

I'm thinking ( out loud ) too that there are attributes in the 6D which are not present in the 5D3. Price apart, the built-in wifi and gps make it extremely good value. While I understand DXO has given it a marginally higher result on ISO noise at certain levels, I believe this is very marginal and almost unnoticeable to most. The 6D is good to a point which is where the 5D3 takes over. Back to the OP's question - the 5D3 positively assails the 6D in the matter of AF.

My apologies if I have made this sound like a 5D3 v 6D debate. It wasn't quite my intention. Merely instead saying that the 6D while good, will not outdo a 5D3 ( ignoring the built-in attributes of wifi and gps ). Otherwise, Canon would be quite mad in undercutting a major product line with a reduced price alternative.


IMHO, naturally

I completely agree with you Houston.

Houston1863 wrote in post #15572157
. Otherwise, Canon would be quite mad in undercutting a major product line with a reduced price alternative.

but this happen to the d600 too
they did start to bring the full fram to everyone or at least to a cheap price


the point is that i would like to have a second body , the 5d mark3 af i guess it's too much for me, i mean i will never use so many points
i use almost the center point
and i want only a trusty camera and af

and i don't like one think about the mark3 , it's hard to focus in low light, i mean the focusing points light up....


Houston , i undestood , what i don't understand is dxo , for example they put some cheap dsrl forward my 5d mark II ,and they are 1.5 sensors


thanks Houston

I just purchased a 6D coming from a 7D. The 6D AF is basically the same as my old T3i which I have gotten used to over a year of ownership. There is something to be said about its simplicity over the much more complicated 7D AF. At times, I would occasionally miss shots messing with the many AF modes.

Honestly, the 6D AF is just fine for my uses with its excellent center point in low light. Add excellent low light AF to insanely great high ISO performance makes me a happy owner.

Basically; 6D AF should be ideal if you use center point; specifically in low light event situations. If you want to use the other points in lowlight situations; move to 5dmkIII or 7d. (Though center point should still outperform on 6D; i'd be interested in seeing a direct comparison of center point only during a wedding vs all points on 5dmkiii...)

mantra wrote in post #15573827
but this happen to the d600 too
they did start to bring the full fram to everyone or at least to a cheap price


the point is that i would like to have a second body , the 5d mark3 af i guess it's too much for me, i mean i will never use so many points
i use almost the center point
and i want only a trusty camera and af

Well Mantra I think then a 6D will be a good backup since you don't need the extra AF points or AI servo settings and are happy with one cross-type center point. I mean we existed quite happily for years with the 5D2 and if not for the advent of the 5D3 would still be using the mark 2.

The focus points can and do light up if you hit the AF selection button ( top right of rear panel ) As a user of the 5D3 I have had no issues using the black focusing point. However if you are concerned, let me allay your fears in saying that the AF on the 5D3 is stellar. I don't recall having to struggle with AF in the time that I've had it. Won't say the same about the 5D2 though, even if that problem was not insurmountable.

Houston , i undestood , what i don't understand is dxo , for example they put some cheap dsrl forward my 5d mark II ,and they are 1.5 sensors

I don't think DXO do themselves and anyone else much favour in creating their ranking system. It looks really strange to have as you say, a lesser item comprehensively beat a pro model. DXO do state I believe that their rating should be taken in comparison only with a similar sensor size. They then go along and rank the D800 at 96% or something and place it at No 1 while it has some 36MPs!!! I'd stay with DP Review


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