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Feb 11, 2013 22:03 |  #1

I have been reading(viewing the amazing photos rather) POTN for sometime. I joined recently with the hope that the guys who post here can give me an advice or two about photography in general and birding in particular. Apart from the photos, the discussions about wildlife and the respect posters here have for nature are truly knowledgeable and inspiring.

I have some stupid question:
If I am looking for comments\advice about a photo that I took(is it too dark, is it sharp enough or can I improve with my body\lens combination, post editing etc) I should be posting here, no? Not in the photo sharing section?
Also, beginners like me will often take picture of a bird we don't recognize, and we can't google for images or compare with pictures from the web because we were not able to get a clear photo, or the one we saw is a juvenile etc but we would like to get the bird's ID to study about its location and behavior before we go and try to get a better shot. So if I post a photo asking for ID and I don't get a comment(maybe because members who recognize it have not seen the post yet) in 4 or so days, can I bump my post up?

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Feb 11, 2013 23:17 |  #2

If you want help with your post processing or how a photo of a bird looks I would just post it in the photo sharing section and comment about ways to improve.
You probably shouldnt do it every time but when yoire starting out its understandable.
Heck I still ask once in a while.

Im not sure about bumping your post but I dont see any harm in it.



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Feb 12, 2013 04:57 as a reply to  @ jhayesvw's post |  #3

Post it in the photo sharing section of the forum. It would help to state if you want advice on how to improve your technique or the overall image ask it when you post the topic. Just remember....the photo sharing section is really for just sharing and not the critique section of the forum so some may not offer advice. For me if I want advice I post in the photo sharing section and ask for it....I'd rather have input from someone who has been in my shoes.

As far as an ID and not getting any responses.....by all means bump the topic. Also, stating the location where the photo was taken helps as well.


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Feb 12, 2013 05:38 |  #4

If it was me asking for advice about a shot I took (of a bird) I would ask in the bird talk section .
The reason is that the bird section has a kind of "Cheers" feel , everyone knows your name etc , and there are plenty enough great photographers in the section to help .

I know it is essentially the incorrect section , by IMHE it is how some forums work .
For example the OP could state his interest in bird photog and keep all his questions in one thread and add new questions there when needed , so not spamming out new threads




  
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Feb 13, 2013 10:14 |  #5

Thank you all for taking time to type in your suggestions.
I agree about not asking questions every time, I notice that advanced members offer advice or suggestive comments to beginners' photos anyway and I'm grate full for that.
I have a photo of a raptor whom I just can't recognize(tried google\avibase\local websites etc), I will try to get a better shot this weekend if I can, otherwise I will bump the ID request next week.
Maybe I will start a thread called 'advice please' if I have too many questions and keep bumping it with new questions(I will try to avoid though, might get me banned for requesting spoon feeding).
Thank you again,
Wanbor


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Feb 13, 2013 14:02 as a reply to  @ REC500's post |  #6

You got your ID on your Raptors. You should have bumped up the topic...I know I would have without a reply after 3 days. :D


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Feb 13, 2013 14:52 as a reply to  @ Duane N's post |  #7

Hi Wanbor,

I hope that I don't come off trying to be a jerk, but "bumping" is frowned upon, according to the Rules here. But... If you post something, meaning, "I can't understand that nobody knows what bird this is"... or similar, instead of the "BUMP" that some do on forums, that is O.K., two different things. I think that is what you had in mind anyway. :)
Anyway, I didn't want you to possibly get on the wrong foot with the moderators.

You have already gotten good advice, so I can't really add to that. :)

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Feb 13, 2013 14:59 |  #8

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Hi Wanbor,

I hope that I don't come off trying to be a jerk, but "bumping" is frowned upon, according to the Rules here. But... If you post something, meaning, "I can't understand that nobody knows what bird this is"... or similar, instead of the "BUMP" that some do on forums, that is O.K., two different things. I think that is what you had in mind anyway. :)
Anyway, I didn't want you to possibly get on the wrong foot with the moderators.

You have already gotten good advice, so I can't really add to that. :)

Randy

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I did not know this.....thanks for posting the rules. I would do it the way Randy described then. Thanks Randy. ;)


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Feb 13, 2013 15:04 as a reply to  @ Duane N's post |  #9

Most forums allow it, but not this one, but, it does come in handy. In the Classifieds here, if you Bump up a thread/post, it doesn't work, it doesn't rise to the top. That's how I found out, I saw someone Bumping and it didn't affect it.

Anyway, all the Moderators would do is mention it, not unless a person was a repeat offender.

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Feb 13, 2013 19:19 |  #10

Somewhere else on the website, there is a post about posting and critiquing etiquette. If I remember correctly, it goes something like this:

In the Critique forum, by simply posting there, you are asking for comments and suggestions.

In all the other photo sharing forums, don't critique a post unless the original poster specifically ask for it. Asking for critique is ok in the sharing forums because the specialized areas are where you are likely to get the most useful advice. For example, I wouldn't expect to get useful suggestions on astrophotography or macro photography in the general critique forum.


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Feb 13, 2013 21:36 as a reply to  @ archer1960's post |  #11

Exactly
You won't get nearly as much or as good advice anywhere else.
Feel free to private message me if you want help. I can try.



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Feb 14, 2013 08:56 |  #12

Thank you all,

Duane, I thought I will try to get a better photo this Saturday first and bump on Sunday if I can't, thanks.

Randy, exactly what I had in mind. Something like "is this the xxx eagle? this one has yellow legs though, could be a juvenile?". I think typing "BUMP" to bump a post is rude anyway. I remember seeing the rules saying something like that when I registered but I thought I'd ask for exceptions so I started this thread, thanks again.

Archer and Jeremy, it's the sharing section then, if I have a photo. And thank you for offering to help, I will try not to bother you too much though.

Sincerely,
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Feb 14, 2013 10:43 |  #13

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Thank you all,

Duane, I thought I will try to get a better photo this Saturday first and bump on Sunday if I can't, thanks.

Randy, exactly what I had in mind. Something like "is this the xxx eagle? this one has yellow legs though, could be a juvenile?". I think typing "BUMP" to bump a post is rude anyway. I remember seeing the rules saying something like that when I registered but I thought I'd ask for exceptions so I started this thread, thanks again.

Archer and Jeremy, it's the sharing section then, if I have a photo. And thank you for offering to help, I will try not to bother you too much though.

Sincerely,
Wanbor

People in the specialty forums love ID'ing animals for you; bugs in the macro forum, birds in the birds forum, etc. I don't know enough about either one to do much identifying, though; I just like taking their pictures... :)


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