Trigger for Canon 600EX-RT and Studio Flash

First of all, sorry about my poor english.

I have a canon 5DII and a Canon 600EX-RT and just bought on ebay an Alien Bee 800. I would like to know if the Canon ST-E3-RT Transmitter will be able to fire both the speedlite off camera and the Alien Bee, also if I want to fire only the Alien Bee with the ST-E3, will I be able to do that? Will I have to get two different triggers?

If not, what trigger would be the best? (I want to be able to have HSS on my speedlite too.

I have this information: "You can use an STE3 trigger a Speedlite in Manual (Not ETTL) which then should in turn trigger the Alien Bee as it has a built in Slave feature that works when it senses another flash.
What if I don't want the speedlite to fire and set the spark off so it would not be part of my picture exposure, will the Alien Bee still work?

Sorry it's so confusing but hope someone will be able to help me.

Thank you

No.

Canon ST-E3-RT is only dedicated to the 600ex-rt. If you want to trigger the 600ex-rt and alienbees you'll need either pocket wizard, alienbees cyber sync trigger, or another 3rd party brand to trigger both the speedlite flash and alienbees.

Keep in mind that there are a few off camera trigger that offers ETTL but they will cost more then the average manual trigger. Alienbees cyber sync are cheap and works great. I believe you can still trigger the 600ex flash with the cyber sync but only in manual mode.

BTW, the Canon ST-E3-RT won't trigger the alienbees.

kouasupra wrote in post #15602632
No.

Canon ST-E3-RT is only dedicated to the 600ex-rt. If you want to trigger the 600ex-rt and alienbees you'll need either pocket wizard, alienbees cyber sync trigger, or another 3rd party brand to trigger both the speedlite flash and alienbees.

BTW, the Canon ST-E3-RT won't trigger the alienbees.

Will this set do the job?
PocketWizard FlexTT5 Transceiver + The PocketWizard MiniTT1
Thank you

acorrade wrote in post #15602645
Will this set do the job?
PocketWizard FlexTT5 Transceiver + The PocketWizard MiniTT1
Thank you

I'm using pocket wizard flexTT5s and miniTT1 to trigger both my alienbees and 600EX-RT flash for studio work. So yes it will work.

kouasupra wrote in post #15602653
I'm using pocket wizard flexTT5s and miniTT1 to trigger both my alienbees and 600EX-RT flash for studio work. So yes it will work.

Wow, what a good coincidence.

So you don't have a ST-E3-RT transmitter?

What are the limitations when using this PW set with the 600EX-RT alone?

acorrade wrote in post #15602688
Wow, what a good coincidence.

So you don't have a ST-E3-RT transmitter?

What are the limitations when using this PW set with the 600EX-RT alone?

No I do have the ST-E3-RT. The ST-E3 only works with the 600EX-RT. When I'm using the alienbees strobes and need more light I'll add the 600ex flash. Since the ST-E3 won't work with the alienbees I have to use the pocket wizard trigger because it works on both system.

As far as limitations I don't know yet since I haven't experience enough with them.

But with a "dumb" slave trigger on the studio flash, it should work if the ST-E3-RT is radio triggering the 600 EX-RT, which is used in manual mode. In that mode, there's only one flash for each picture, and that's when the studio strobe should flash as well.

You end up with everything manual, but I can't see any reason why it shouldn't work.

As said STE3RT only fires 600EXRT's, no AB stuff. When I want to mix speedlites with my AB stuff I use the Cybersyncs to trigger my 600EXRT's. Its all manual, with you having to walk over to the speedlight for power changes, but in a studio I dont find that much a hassle.

What I meant whas that the AB stuff would fire from the flash fired by the 600 EX-RT, which in turn was fired from the radio trig signal, coming from the ST-E3-RT. Wouldn't that work?
Pointless if you have Pocket Wizards, sure.

apersson850 wrote in post #15603147
But with a "dumb" slave trigger on the studio flash, it should work if the ST-E3-RT is radio triggering the 600 EX-RT, which is used in manual mode. In that mode, there's only one flash for each picture, and that's when the studio strobe should flash as well.

You end up with everything manual, but I can't see any reason why it shouldn't work.

That is the information that I had. It should work in manual and when I use the 600 alone, the information that I have, is that the ST-E3 would be a much better choice as it is full compatible.

Deanhedges wrote in post #15604773
As said STE3RT only fires 600EXRT's, no AB stuff. When I want to mix speedlites with my AB stuff I use the Cybersyncs to trigger my 600EXRT's. Its all manual, with you having to walk over to the speedlight for power changes, but in a studio I dont find that much a hassle.

I was attending a studio workshop last month and my 600 did trigger a Bowens unit BUT not everytime, had to switch to a cheap trigger that was available for the class.

Have you tried to fire the AB with the 600 alone?

kouasupra wrote in post #15602924
No I do have the ST-E3-RT. The ST-E3 only works with the 600EX-RT. When I'm using the alienbees strobes and need more light I'll add the 600ex flash. Since the ST-E3 won't work with the alienbees I have to use the pocket wizard trigger because it works on both system.

As far as limitations I don't know yet since I haven't experience enough with them.

Is this one that you have?
http://www.paulcbuff.e​u.com …bersync-transciever/CSXCV

acorrade wrote in post #15604914
I was attending a studio workshop last month and my 600 did trigger a Bowens unit BUT not everytime, had to switch to a cheap trigger that was available for the class.

Have you tried to fire the AB with the 600 alone?

No I have not. I use Einstein strobes with the CSXCV receiver, the CST on the camera, and the Cyber Commander in my hand.

Or I use the 600EXRTs with the STE3RT.

When I want to add these two systems together I add the CSRB+ trigger to the 600XERT with a PC sync cord, and ditch the STE3RT. This makes the 600EXRTs all manual, but not dependent on being line of sight for optical trip.

I do not see why the optical sensor on the AB stuff would not be tripped by a 600EXRT, just be aware that any ETTL pre flash will probably fool the AB into firing early. SO the 600EXRT will have to be manual.

Going either way around this circle will get you to the point of being able to mix both systems. I decided that I did not want to depend on a line of sight optical sensor to trip the Einstein, so I went with the Paul Buff system.

EDIT: The receiver you linked is what I use on the Einstein, it only works on the Einstein and is also not compatible with the PW stuff.

http://www.paulcbuff.c​om/mc2.php is the PW receiver for the Einstein.

Deanhedges wrote in post #15606758
No I have not. I use Einstein strobes with the CSXCV receiver, the CST on the camera, and the Cyber Commander in my hand.

Or I use the 600EXRTs with the STE3RT.

When I want to add these two systems together I add the CSRB+ trigger to the 600XERT with a PC sync cord, and ditch the STE3RT. This makes the 600EXRTs all manual, but not dependent on being line of sight for optical trip.

I do not see why the optical sensor on the AB stuff would not be tripped by a 600EXRT, just be aware that any ETTL pre flash will probably fool the AB into firing early. SO the 600EXRT will have to be manual.

Going either way around this circle will get you to the point of being able to mix both systems. I decided that I did not want to depend on a line of sight optical sensor to trip the Einstein, so I went with the Paul Buff system.

EDIT: The receiver you linked is what I use on the Einstein, it only works on the Einstein and is also not compatible with the PW stuff.

http://www.paulcbuff.c​om/mc2.php is the PW receiver for the Einstein.

Thanks for the information.

acorrade wrote in post #15606477
Is this one that you have?
http://www.paulcbuff.e​u.com …bersync-transciever/CSXCV

Again I'm not using cyber sync. I'm using pocket wizard FlexTT5 and miniTT1 with AC3 and AC9 for power tracking on my alienbees.