Trigger for Canon 600EX-RT and Studio Flash

kouasupra wrote in post #15610516
Again I'm not using cyber sync. I'm using pocket wizard FlexTT5 and miniTT1 with AC3 and AC9 for power tracking on my alienbees.

Sorry send message to the wrong person.

Can I get HSS and ETTL with PW system on the 5DII using off camera flash?

acorrade wrote in post #15613211
Sorry send message to the wrong person.

Can I get HSS and ETTL with PW system on the 5DII using off camera flash?

Yes. Only if your using canon speedlite.

It looks like this set is a good low price solution plus it has assist bean for my poor 5DII low light capability, just unsure if this will fire the ABs???

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=DjEIKuIUQGQ

apersson850 wrote in post #15603147
But with a "dumb" slave trigger on the studio flash, it should work if the ST-E3-RT is radio triggering the 600 EX-RT, which is used in manual mode. In that mode, there's only one flash for each picture, and that's when the studio strobe should flash as well.

You end up with everything manual, but I can't see any reason why it shouldn't work.

Only issue with this, he wants to be able to turn the 600 off and just fire the alien bee at times, turning it all the way down would probably work fine but is not quite the same thing.

In regards to the OP's scenario.

I have 3 Flextt5+AC3 and the mc2 for einstein. I use my speedlights and the einstein together quite often so a wireless system that works with both was required.

At times when I use only speedlights the PW work great with the 430's, I have ettl, HSS, and also power tracking for when I need to change my aperature or iso and don't want to fuss with FEC.

I would love to have some 600's but for the money I needed a system that works with both now. In the future I would like to have the option of both systems as I hear using 100% canon RT is pretty awesome. If I could afford that, I would skip the STE3 and pony up for another 600 so I could have focus assist and more control.

CptTripps wrote in post #15614281
Only issue with this, he wants to be able to turn the 600 off and just fire the alien bee at times, turning it all the way down would probably work fine but is not quite the same thing.

In regards to the OP's scenario.

I have 3 Flextt5+AC3 and the mc2 for einstein. I use my speedlights and the einstein together quite often so a wireless system that works with both was required.

At times when I use only speedlights the PW work great with the 430's, I have ettl, HSS, and also power tracking for when I need to change my aperature or iso and don't want to fuss with FEC.

I would love to have some 600's but for the money I needed a system that works with both now. In the future I would like to have the option of both systems as I hear using 100% canon RT is pretty awesome. If I could afford that, I would skip the STE3 and pony up for another 600 so I could have focus assist and more control.

Have a look at the video I posted, the YN622C seems to be a very good tool for the job, AF-assist bean, HSS, TTL etc… I might get this one!

acorrade wrote in post #15614323
Have a look at the video I posted, the YN622C seems to be a very good tool for the job, AF-assist bean, HSS, TTL etc… I might get this one!

Oh I agree, those did not exsist when I purchased Just providing my experience with the PW.

CptTripps wrote in post #15614281
Only issue with this, he wants to be able to turn the 600 off and just fire the alien bee at times, turning it all the way down would probably work fine but is not quite the same thing.

OK, then it's a problem. Aiming the 600 so that the studio strobe can see it, but the remaining light ends up outside the frame is probably inconvenient, even if it could be doable.

Deanhedges wrote in post #15606758
No I have not. I use Einstein strobes with the CSXCV receiver, the CST on the camera, and the Cyber Commander in my hand.

Or I use the 600EXRTs with the STE3RT.

When I want to add these two systems together I add the CSRB+ trigger to the 600XERT with a PC sync cord, and ditch the STE3RT. This makes the 600EXRTs all manual, but not dependent on being line of sight for optical trip.

I do not see why the optical sensor on the AB stuff would not be tripped by a 600EXRT, just be aware that any ETTL pre flash will probably fool the AB into firing early. SO the 600EXRT will have to be manual.

Going either way around this circle will get you to the point of being able to mix both systems. I decided that I did not want to depend on a line of sight optical sensor to trip the Einstein, so I went with the Paul Buff system.

EDIT: The receiver you linked is what I use on the Einstein, it only works on the Einstein and is also not compatible with the PW stuff.

http://www.paulcbuff.c​om/mc2.php is the PW receiver for the Einstein.

Question: why not leave the STE3RT on the hotshoe, control the 600s manually from the STE3RT, and use the PC port on the camera to connect the PCB trigger, so you are firing 2 trigger systems from the camera simultaneously? This is what I'm thinking of doing, as I have a 600 system (2 flashes + E3), and looking to pickup my first AB soon. I will likely have a mix - the 600's for extra light (possibly rim lighting), with the AB being the key light, and using a 430EX gelled (on a Cybersync receiver with adapter cable) for background light (or with a grid for hair light). Yes, it's a mix, but I can't afford to buy a bunch of Bees up front, so mixing them until I have a Bee studio setup and speedlight portable setup is best I can do.

mike1812 wrote in post #15680007
Question: why not leave the STE3RT on the hotshoe, control the 600s manually from the STE3RT, and use the PC port on the camera to connect the PCB trigger, so you are firing 2 trigger systems from the camera simultaneously? This is what I'm thinking of doing, as I have a 600 system (2 flashes + E3), and looking to pickup my first AB soon. I will likely have a mix - the 600's for extra light (possibly rim lighting), with the AB being the key light, and using a 430EX gelled (on a Cybersync receiver with adapter cable) for background light (or with a grid for hair light). Yes, it's a mix, but I can't afford to buy a bunch of Bees up front, so mixing them until I have a Bee studio setup and speedlight portable setup is best I can do.

Does this work? I have 3 600ex's and a St-e3-rt and I'm thinking of buying some cheap radio triggers to use my quadra set with my 600ex's.. Like the cactus v5s from the sync port and the st-e3 from the hotshoe? Then i work with two systems wirelessly from the same camera.. dope!

Works like a charm.
Speedlite or STE3 on camera and Cyber Sync Trigger, or Pocket Wizard or whatever plugged into PC port on camera. Do yourself a favor and get a PC sync cable from Lon at Flash Zebra that has the locking collar to screw into the camera PC connection. I do that and then just attach the CST to the camera strap with a piece of duct tape or rubber band.

What would really be nice is if Lon would modify the wiring in the 600EX-RT foot so the PC port on it would work in both directions. i.e. send a fire pulse as well as accept one from a trigger. (Lon?)

Or, if it can't work both ways it would be much more useful to have it send a signal than receive it.