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Jan 10, 2006 14:23 |  #1

I'm planning on getting the 70-200mm f/2.8 for my girlfriends horse shows.

I do plan on doing some walking around with it, but for the horse shows, I will be stationary, with a tripod. Do I really need to dish out the extra 650$ for IS?

Money isn't the issue. I can save up the extra 650$ if I have to. It's just a question of whether or not I really need it.


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Jan 10, 2006 14:24 |  #2

For a horse show, with a tripod, no..the IS will never be necessary. It's only necessary if you can't get adequate shutter speeds, and need to handhold a lower speed. Otherwise, as I've found out, it's quite useless. (to me)


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Jan 10, 2006 14:28 |  #3

Will you be able to use a tripod? Depending on the show, it can get pretty crowded around the fence. A monopod, maybe, but IS will help with one of those, too. 'Tis better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.


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Jan 10, 2006 14:49 |  #4

Well, I'm no pro, so the only shows I can get any business at are very small shows. I'll definitely have room for a tripod.


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Jan 10, 2006 15:02 |  #5

I recently went digital and went with the 70-300 USM IS lens, and have very few regrets with it.

The ability to stabilize a shot is very desired, especially when your shooting slow.

I find that the number of my shots that turn out with the stabalizer on is much higher than with it turned off. Even if your shooting at 1/1000 of a sec.
Canon stated that the is on the 70-300 is equal to 3 stops. Using the f4 lens with is turned on is almost identical to the 2.8 that others are sugesting.

The manual also recommends that you dont use IS when the lens is on a tripod.

I'd recomend going to your local pro store and renting the lens that your looking at for a day or weekend and get to know it. Then compare it to the alternatives. I dont consider the 5-10% of the purchase price a waste of money like some would say. It sure beats buying a lens and selling it for 1/2 price in a few months.

I'd rather hand hold a camera using IS than have a tripod set up in an area with lots of people walking by in close quarters.

I shoot alot of airshows where people are constantly wandering about and a tripod simply isnt an option for me. Perhaps if all i shot was birds or scenery, but after having two cameras ruined by stray feet, I will never go back.


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Jan 10, 2006 15:15 |  #6

scraggles wrote:
I'm planning on getting the 70-200mm f/2.8 for my girlfriends horse shows.

I do plan on doing some walking around with it, but for the horse shows, I will be stationary, with a tripod. Do I really need to dish out the extra 650$ for IS?

Money isn't the issue. I can save up the extra 650$ if I have to. It's just a question of whether or not I really need it.

Your girlfriend's horse(s) will turn $650 into horse poo in a couple of weeks. IS will last you years. Seriously though it is very useful on longer lenses. I can't be bothered with a tripod for action shooting.


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Jan 10, 2006 16:34 |  #7

If the 70-200 is going to be on either a monopod or a tripod about 95% of your shooting, then I don't see the need for the IS feature. I for one almost always shoot my non-IS version on a monopod, so I don't miss the IS feature at all. So all depends on your predominant shooting mode.



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Jan 10, 2006 16:41 |  #8

For your use i'd skip the monopod, and would consider the Sigma lens because it's good and meant to be a bunch cheaper. For me, doing wedding hand held in a dark church, IS is a godsend - pun intended :p


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Jan 10, 2006 17:42 |  #9

scraggles wrote:
How important is IS?

Very.

Those who buy the non-IS or f/4 versions do so not because they are not important but because they can't afford it.

They say they went for f4 ' cuz they do not need the faster lens 'cuz they shoot in good lighting conditions. Naaah, it is all about the money.

If you have it, go for it. If not, get the non-IS and in no time, you will be producing tons of justifications for your purchase; I will bu using a tripod anyway, I do not do much handheld stuff; it is lighter anyways; the image quality is the same anyways, isn't it? etc.

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Jan 10, 2006 17:50 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #10

tim wrote:
For your use I'd skip the monopod, and would consider the Sigma lens because it's good and meant to be a bunch cheaper. For me, doing wedding hand held in a dark church, IS is a godsend - pun intended :p

Oh Tim, I can't stand the punishment :lol:
I love my IS lenses. Even though I may be shooting a fast enough shutter speed to negate camera shake I find that IS is invaluable in obtaining a steady "sight picture". I can keep the center focus point where i want it much easier with IS than without. In low light that necessitates slow shutter speeds I wouldn't want to be without IS.


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Jan 10, 2006 20:01 |  #11

After spending over $1 grand, I doubt that the horse show is the ONLY one that you will shoot. For indoor sports where there is low light and no flash, the IS is a must. If you spend enough time in Market Place here and in FM, there are "tons" of people who want to sell their non-IS to upgrade to IS version.

I totally agree with Jon. Better to have it more than less.


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Jan 10, 2006 20:28 |  #12

So would you guys suggest giving up L quality from the 70-200mm f/4L to get the 70-300mm IS? I need a very multipurpose lens that can accept many conditions, not just a lens designed specifically for wildlife where ambient light is particularly abundant. I definitely want quality and color, but is IS really worth it to sacrifice the liveliness of L?


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Jan 11, 2006 11:05 |  #13

That's a totally different question. If wildlife is even part of the equation, 200 isn't long enough. You'd need to add at least a 1.4x TC to it to get even close. So in less-than-ideal lighting your 70-300 IS (either one) will be vastly superior to the 70-200 f/4 +TC, since you'll be able to use a slower speed. At the short end, things get a little fuzzier,since the shorter focal length means you can use slower shutter speeds, and the L advantage will be able to come through much better. So the quality advantage really depends on what focal lengths you'll be using most of the time.

If you're considering the 70-200 f/4 vs the new 70-300 IS that Canon introduced last fall, you'd need to add the cost of a 1.4x TC to the equation IMHO, so if you're on a budget, make it the 70-300 unless you don't, ever shoot long. If you were thinking of the (very compact) 70-300 DO IS and included the TC in the equation, the costs would be about comparable. There I might decide on bag impact (which would I prefer to carry around all week while travelling,if that matters).


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Jan 11, 2006 11:14 as a reply to  @ scraggles's post |  #14

scraggles wrote:
Well, I'm no pro, so the only shows I can get any business at are very small shows. I'll definitely have room for a tripod.

If you mainly want to shoot your girlfriend's shows (is it jumping?), you will like to handhold your camera and move around the place to get more than one shoot at the best angle.

run, shoot, run, shoot. Then you need IS.
Specially for a non-pro user.
Pros shot hundreds more picts than us.
They can do things we cannot.
IS can be very precious to a non-pro in a situation where a pro could cope without.


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Jan 11, 2006 11:16 |  #15

What % of your shots are keepers? How many did you have to toss due to the camera shake? That should tell you how badly you need IS. I went from 70-200/4 to 70-200/2.8 IS because of the keeper rate (at times when I couldn't use a monopod or tripod.)


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