Use caution with EOS count and 1D bodies.

This week I picked up a second 1DMKIV body, it is in great shape. the seller did an EOS Count in front of me and the shutter count came up 31k n change.

I took the body to Canon in Jamesburg NJ for a clean and check, along with some other bodies. The shutter count came back as 161368! WTH?

According to canon EOS count is not reliable with 1D bodies???

Called the seller renegotiating the deal, inspection by Canon was part of the deal..

Use caution with EOS Count, anyone else see this before?

Photoshopped EOS count?

Yeah I heard that about EOS count and 1 series bodies. The good news is that a new shutter is cheap and if the camera is in good condition, it should last you a VERY long time.

I usually don't worry about shutter count. They can go at one month old or 6 years down the road.

blonde wrote in post #15614845
Yeah I heard that about EOS count and 1 series bodies. The good news is that a new shutter is cheap and if the camera is in good condition, it should last you a VERY long time.

Cheap? I thought they were $300 or more - and no, that is certainly not cheap! If it takes 4 years to save up for a used 1D4, who wants to have to save up for another 6 months just to replace a shutter?

Tom Reichner wrote in post #15615427
Cheap? I thought they were $300 or more - and no, that is certainly not cheap! If it takes 4 years to save up for a used 1D4, who wants to have to save up for another 6 months just to replace a shutter?

I agree. I bought my 1D II almost 2 years ago ( for $750), and with 89k clicks (although verified by myshuttercount.com). Having to put $300 into a $750 body is not a cool thought.
I felt ok with those actuations on a 1D, but if it were 150k+..i wouldn't have bought it, or paid near that much.

MajesticMomentsPhoto wrote in post #15614781
This week I picked up a second 1DMKIV body, it is in great shape. the seller did an EOS Count in front of me and the shutter count came up 31k n change.

I took the body to Canon in Jamesburg NJ for a clean and check, along with some other bodies. The shutter count came back as 161368! WTH?

According to canon EOS count is not reliable with 1D bodies???

Called the seller renegotiating the deal, inspection by Canon was part of the deal..

Use caution with EOS Count, anyone else see this before?

Well its good you were able to include inspection by Canon as part of your Deal. That was very intelligent on your part. Did you run Eoscount a second time to see if it came up with a different number than it originally posted?

Just curious, do you remember if Eos count read your serial number automatically and properly when the program was run on the camera? Did the camera look like it had been that heavily used?

I am only asking because I wonder how Accurate the program is that Canon is using and why they chose not to make it available to the end users.

Jason

ComicDom1 wrote in post #15626217
Well its good you were able to include inspection by Canon as part of your Deal. That was very intelligent on your part. Did you run Eoscount a second time to see if it came up with a different number than it originally posted?

Just curious, do you remember if Eos count read your serial number automatically and properly when the program was run on the camera? Did the camera look like it had been that heavily used?

I am only asking because I wonder how Accurate the program is that Canon is using and why they chose not to make it available to the end users.

Jason

I took the body and a few others in under CPS to clean n check, when I picked it up I noticed no shutter count was done on any of them, the counter guy took it to a tech and literally in under 3 minutes the tech came back with the counts. Whatever they are using works and fast..

twoshadows wrote in post #15614995
I usually don't worry about shutter count. They can go at one month old or 6 years down the road.

True,but it helps in setting a price to the body.

My 1D MK2N shutter cost $500 even after arguing with Canon that it wasn't even close to MTBF. Anybody who who says shutter repair is cheap is full of it.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #15615427
Cheap? I thought they were $300 or more - and no, that is certainly not cheap! If it takes 4 years to save up for a used 1D4, who wants to have to save up for another 6 months just to replace a shutter?

If you're in Australia $300 is cheap, dirt cheap.
I've had 3 shutters replaced, two on a 10D and one on a 1D MkII - each time it was $600. - a 50/50 split between shutter cost and labour.

If you're comparing it to getting a new body, I suppose it's cheap.

Chris1le wrote in post #15626311
My 1D MK2N shutter cost $500 even after arguing with Canon that it wasn't even close to MTBF. Anybody who who says shutter repair is cheap is full of it.

I am looking at a 1DsMkIII, for circa £1800-1900. This is based on a 3 similar cameras where the count ranged from 7000 to 10,000 and one "extremely low hardly used"????? So if I discovered my camera had 150k actuations and then cost $500 = £500 in Canon financials just to mend - well I wouldn't have the budget to do it straight away - but would
Just have to cut back elsewhere.

Just thought how much is a service on a Canon 1Ds Mk3 - maybe an idea to roll that into the deal so any issues like this appear straight away.

Mind u in OP s case I find it hard to believe the seller thought it had done 31k and actually done 161k !

If it's been said once on this, or any other forum, it's been said a thousand times...
The only foolproof way to get an accurate shutter count is to send it to Canon.
Using unofficial, or third party shutter count software is always unreliable and should never be relied on as being 100% correct.

AFAIK, 1D mark IV expected shutter cycle around 300,000,
also replacing shutter for a professional is cheap,
agree with blonde and philwillmedia,
if you can afford a 1D then it is cheap,
if you can't afford it that means you are pushing yourself too hard,
maybe 1D isn't just for you, get a Rebel instead

tongki wrote in post #15627314
AFAIK, 1D mark IV expected shutter cycle around 300,000,
also replacing shutter for a professional is cheap,
agree with blonde and philwillmedia,
if you can afford a 1D then it is cheap,
if you can't afford it that means you are pushing yourself too hard,
maybe 1D isn't just for you, get a Rebel instead

I don't like blanket statements like this. As i said in my post, i have a 1D II.. no more expensive to buy now, than a 60D or T4i. Even a 1D III can be had for not much more than the price of a 7D.
Yeah, if you can afford a 1D IV or especially 1Dx, having to put out $300-$500 on a shutter isn't so much...relative to the body's value. There are still a ton of 1D II and 1D III in action, and on these.. $300-$500 in repair is harder to swallow.

Just remember, this thread was about getting accurate shutter counts on 1D bodies... not just 1D IV's.