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Feb 17, 2013 12:57 |  #1

Still havent bought any new lenses, i'm in a dilemma and been so for two weeks now..

Now i'm thinking of trading in all my lenses, except the 40mm pancake for a 17-40L and a 70-200L.

Why would you ask.
Well, first and foremost... i want better quality, better glas, weatherproof lenses and the lenses part covered when i move over to FF. Secondly, the deal is pretty good.. not awesome, but good. And it's closeby.. so i can drive over to the shop and try them, plus i get a warranty.

17-40 used, 35% off compared to new price
70-200 used 35% off compared to new price

So, i'm trading in the 85, 50 and 28-80 (fisheye is already sold) and keeping the 40.
The 85 is one hell of a lense i'll give you that, but i don't think i will miss it that much.. the 40 is my favourite lense.
So, if i do the trade.. i'm stuck with 17-40 (allround), 70-200 (some portraitshots and outdoor activities) and the 40 for low light conditions and portraits.

Now, most of you will tell me that the 17-40 don't belong on a crop, that the focal range is weird (27-65) and that f/4 will get me in trouble.
But all the reviews i've read and watched says it's good lense on a crop. Alot of photographers with a crop uses the 70-200 aswell.

I've done a few jobs (musicvideo, weddings, corporate ad) to get some extra money.. in my mind it will be no problems with these 3 lenses if i take on more similiar jobs.
Weddings are held at daytime.. so no problems there.
And you have to take into account that the 60D produces very nice photos with little noise up to 1600 ISO and i also have a flash. And there is an option to borrow a 50mm 1.4 on wedding jobs.

I've tried the 17-40 on my 60D and i like the focalrange.. alot actually. It's like a 24-70 on a FF.. so i don't see why people says it's a weird range on a crop.

Only tried the 70-200 briefly.. but it felt good and produce very sharp images.


So.. trading 3 lenses for two slower ones with higher f/stops.

Your thoughts? (nope.. i don't want to hear about any EF-S lenses or how much better alternatives i can get if i save this amount of money etc).


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Feb 17, 2013 13:01 |  #2

it's not that 17-40mm is a bad range on a crop...it's that there are countless lenses that cover that range, and bring way more to the table than a slow, shorter zoom...


i wouldn't think twice about doing that trade...but i'd rather have a few faster primes and slower budget zooms if you want to cover that range


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Feb 17, 2013 13:47 |  #3

If I was going to stick with a crop body, I would get a 17-55 or 15-85 instead of the 17-40. I value the IS option, especially when it gets dark and I'm dragging the shutter.


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Feb 17, 2013 14:00 |  #4

marcosv wrote in post #15620257 (external link)
If I was going to stick with a crop body, I would get a 17-55 or 15-85 instead of the 17-40. I value the IS option, especially when it gets dark and I'm dragging the shutter.

doesent matter when your below 1/100th ... anything moving in your photo will be unfocused anyway.
Just up the iso instead of "stealing" from the shutter.


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Feb 17, 2013 14:49 |  #5

Which 70-200 would you be trading for? The non-IS 70-200 f/4 L isn't weatherproofed. I believe all of the others are.




  
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Feb 17, 2013 16:43 |  #6

DreDaze wrote in post #15620104 (external link)
it's not that 17-40mm is a bad range on a crop...it's that there are countless lenses that cover that range, and bring way more to the table than a slow, shorter zoom...

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Feb 17, 2013 16:48 |  #7

patrick023 wrote in post #15620480 (external link)
Which 70-200 would you be trading for? The non-IS 70-200 f/4 L isn't weatherproofed. I believe all of the others are.

The two image stabilized versions(well, three) are weather resistant.

THe IS2 is....omg good.


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Feb 17, 2013 17:26 |  #8

bent toe wrote in post #15620311 (external link)
doesent matter when your below 1/100th ... anything moving in your photo will be unfocused anyway.
Just up the iso instead of "stealing" from the shutter.

Depending on what/whom my subject is, I can go below 1/100th --- and even if I'm not, I value the IS when my arms are getting tired.

As for ISO, oh yeah. That's been cranked up already.


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Feb 18, 2013 08:07 |  #9

Oh well... off to the store to trade it all in for just one lens.


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Feb 18, 2013 10:36 |  #10

bent toe wrote in post #15622885 (external link)
Oh well... off to the store to trade it all in for just one lens.

what are you going with...

after re-reading your edited first post...i have to wonder...why even post if you don't want to listen to advice from people with experience?


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Feb 18, 2013 11:04 |  #11

Just your thoughts, you can't seriously be upset because i dident take your advice?


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Feb 18, 2013 14:24 |  #12

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Just your thoughts, you can't seriously be upset because i dident take your advice?

I'm not upset at all... I just find it interesting


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Feb 18, 2013 15:06 |  #13

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I'm not upset at all... I just find it interesting

How so?
Hundred of members on here ask for opinions/thoughts/advi​ces every year.. i doubt everyone that asks always pick what the members advice them to?

I'm not saying i did the right choice, i'm not overely excited about my choice.. but i think it fits my needs, now i can use one lens as an allround and my 40 for portraits/indoor shots.

Later on i will get a telezoom, probably the 70-200 non-IS because it is in my pricerange.
I been shooting without IS for almost a year now, non-IS does not bother me at all. Primes (in my pricerange) rarely come with IS.

I can see IS being needed for video.


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Feb 18, 2013 17:17 |  #14

Considering that you plan to move to fullframe, I think the 17-40L is a good choice.

I think however that you should seriously consider getting an IS version of the 70-200. I don't miss having IS on my shorter lenses, but on the 70-200 I really miss it. I use my 70-200 primarily at the long end and getting a fast enough shutter speed can actually be a problem more often than one would think.
When I shoot OCF I can't use high speed sync so I can't have a shutter speed faster than 1/200 and that means that I will have shots that suffer from camera shake.

I can't afford the IS version, but I really wish I could :)


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Feb 19, 2013 01:21 |  #15

Steensgaard wrote in post #15624841 (external link)
I use my 70-200 primarily at the long end and getting a fast enough shutter speed can actually be a problem more often than one would think.


I can't afford the IS version, but I really wish I could :)

You got a point there.. but unfortunally money is always a problem.


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