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What to do with an old Vivitat 285HV?

 
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Feb 19, 2013 06:17 |  #1

Apart from putting it on the hotshoe, which could probably fry my 7D?

Looking in my old, film camera bag, next to a T70 and FD kit lens, I found my forgotten 285HV.

What to do with it?

What I love about my body/580 EX ii setup is that I have easy off camera flash, thanks to the 7D built it flash working as a remote trigger. No pocket wizards to buy...

By itself, I doubt the vintage flash can work as a slave, unlike a 580 or 420...

Methinks I should follow Strobist Lighting 101 and use a cable, running my lights in full manual…


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Feb 19, 2013 08:15 |  #2

Maybe add an optical slave ?.


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Feb 19, 2013 08:51 |  #3

But wouldn't the optical slave trigger the 285 when it sees my 7D pre-flash, the one that triggers the 580 Speedlight?

So what I thought was a feature of the 7D is now a bug...


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Feb 19, 2013 09:01 |  #4

There are slaves that can ignore pre-flash.

Corbeau wrote in post #15627060 (external link)
But wouldn't the optical slave trigger the 285 when it sees my 7D pre-flash, the one that triggers the 580 Speedlight?

So what I thought was a feature of the 7D is now a bug...


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Feb 19, 2013 15:31 |  #5

Corbeau wrote in post #15626686 (external link)
Apart from putting it on the hotshoe, which could probably fry my 7D?

Looking in my old, film camera bag, next to a T70 and FD kit lens, I found my forgotten 285HV.

As I understand it, the 285/283 could possibly fry the camera, but the 285HV was specifically designed to have a sync voltage that's safe on the digital bodies. Doubt you'd want to with a 580EX II in the bag, though. :) On-camera, you kinda want swivel.

You could combine it off-camera with the 580EX ii if you got radio triggers. And if you got the YN-622c ($90 per pair), you wouldn't be giving up the light-based function you're getting with the Canon proprietary system with the 580EX ii (e.g., ettl, hss, 2nd-curtain, remote power setting, etc.) and you wouldn't have to worry about preflash and line-of-sight as with optical triggers. More expensive, true. But not nearly as expensive as PocketWizards.


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Feb 19, 2013 16:32 |  #6

once ya start learning that built in systems are not the best and go to some kinda triggers you might be able to use that setup ?

even a set of something like phottix triggers in manual are nice to have and most folks will end up using manual once they learn more about lighting so I might say hang onto it for a bit :)


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Feb 19, 2013 20:55 as a reply to  @ Chad D's post |  #7

I use my old Vivitar 283 as a back light/hair light. I put it directly behind the model with my old optical slave trigger attached. With my OCF to the side of my T3i, I place the optical slave trigger so that it can see the OCF but not the pre-flash from the camera. What can I say, IT WORKS for me. Just one idea for your 285.

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Feb 19, 2013 21:06 as a reply to  @ Larry Q's post |  #8

I have 2 Vivitar 283's that I have on yongnuo wireless receivers that I use all the time..wish I had 2 285's for the power level settings but love my 283's on wireless.




  
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Feb 19, 2013 22:48 |  #9

It's a fabulous manual flash. Like others have said you can use it as an off-camera flash in a variety of settings. While I have a number of 580 and 430 Canon flashes, sometimes I need an additional light and that's where my old trusty 285 (the original model of more than 25 years ago)and almost as ole Vivitar 4600 comes in. I trigger them on manual with pocket wizard Plus II wireless triggers. Unlike cameras of that vintage, the flashes continue to provide perfect light. The 4600 had a great slave module that allows it to work as an optical slave as well.


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Feb 22, 2013 11:42 |  #10

I use a Vivitar 285HV (old one) off-camera with a Canon 7D and 580ex's or monolights. To trigger the Vivitar 285HV, I use a Morris DS-1 digital slave (external link) about $30. The DS-1 is designed to work with the pre-flash from digital cameras. Different camera manufacturers and different models use varying pre-flash rates, so DS-1 slave has three settings to choose depending on your brand. I can confirm it works with the built-in flash on the 7D or a 580ex mounted on-camera, or with an ST-E2 optical transmitter to fire 580ex's wirelessly. However, I had to contact Morris because the documentation is poor and gives no clue which of the three settings works with the 7D. Hint: it's a matter of trial and error, so write it down once you figure it out. Note that the newest version of the DS-1 has a short cord with mini 3.5mm plug attached to use with monolights. It's a nice additional feature although it just dangles there if you don't need it, and again, the documentation doesn't even mention it.

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Feb 22, 2013 11:56 |  #11

Thanks CAPhotog, that's exactly the kind of info I was looking for...


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Feb 22, 2013 12:22 |  #12

Corbeau wrote in post #15626686 (external link)
Apart from putting it on the hotshoe, which could probably fry my 7D?

Consider using the Wein Safe-Sync (external link) voltage regulator.




  
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Feb 22, 2013 17:53 |  #13

DC Fan wrote in post #15640340 (external link)
Consider using the Wein Safe-Sync (external link) voltage regulator.

I use one of those with my 283's and Novatron strobes just because they are pretty old and I'm not sure of the voltage frying my 50D.




  
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