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Feb 22, 2013 18:06 |  #46

Charlie wrote in post #15641201 (external link)
based off dxo reports, I think the t4i scored worse than the 60D when it came to high iso. better AWB would be nice for the video work I do.
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Don't believe all the reports, go try it out you'll be surprised.




  
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Feb 22, 2013 18:20 |  #47

gotak wrote in post #15637989 (external link)
I really wonder if Canon has anything available soon. We all sort of know Nikon could do a 24 mp crop sensor because sony has one already. But canon has launched 2 new crop bodies recently on their venerable 18 mp chip.

Recently? The T4i was lauched last June and the 60D is 2.5 years old. The 60Da really doesn't count since it's a special variant of the 60D for astrophotography.

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and that gets the crop camera 1 step closer to FF IQ... what's not to like?

One will never equal the other. Any advancements to aps-c will also make 35mm image sensors better too. So aps-c will never get the same IQ as 35mm unless you are talking about 35mm of 4 years ago. Resolution is not an element of IQ.




  
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Feb 22, 2013 19:08 |  #48

HappySnapper90 wrote in post #15641667 (external link)
...Resolution is not an element of IQ.

Really?

OK, maybe not directly, but sharpness certainly is an element of IQ, and resolution certainly has a major effect on the sharpness a camera & lens is capable of achieving.


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Feb 22, 2013 19:41 |  #49

HappySnapper90 wrote in post #15641667 (external link)
One will never equal the other. Any advancements to aps-c will also make 35mm image sensors better too. So aps-c will never get the same IQ as 35mm unless you are talking about 35mm of 4 years ago. Resolution is not an element of IQ.

actual resolving power IS... and no AA filter gets you one step closer.


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Feb 22, 2013 20:20 |  #50

ChuckingFluff wrote in post #15640945 (external link)
Shot my brothers t4i next to my 7D in low light and the t4i is wicked with high ISO and low noise. I found the auto white balance was much better than the 7D.

just checked http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/CO​MPS01.HTM (external link)

the 60D vs t4i @ ISO 6400, and the 60D looks cleaner


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Feb 22, 2013 20:22 |  #51

I only trust back to back comparisons taken at the same time with the same exact settings and lens. These nice comparison shots taken across the years where they try to emulate the same settings through the years just don't do it for me. Too many varying factors that way...


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Feb 22, 2013 20:35 |  #52

TeamSpeed wrote in post #15642012 (external link)
I only trust back to back comparisons taken at the same time with the same exact settings and lens. These nice comparison shots taken across the years where they try to emulate the same settings through the years just don't do it for me. Too many varying factors that way...

how so? they looks like the same style shots dpreview does. I'm looking at the model shots at ISO 6400.

seems like they have a good testing methodology: http://www.imaging-resource.com/ARTS/TEST​S/HMI.HTM (external link)


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Feb 22, 2013 21:56 |  #53

They have changed lighting once already, and I just don't like the fact that the settings are similar perhaps from one year to another as they test cameras in that room, but no matter what, they are not identical.

When I test, I do them side by side with the same lighting and same lens, if possible, at the same settings, using the same version of software designed to work with both raw files. This elminates any of those factors as deltas, regardless of how close they might be in the other sites' tests.


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Feb 22, 2013 22:51 |  #54
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Chill out. I have a 40D and am still perfectly happy with it for everything except video. Having the latest and greatest won't make your photos any better.

You haven't seen photos taken with the newer Sony sensors, have you?


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