7D wireless flash question

As of now I have the Yongnuo 568EX and want to use my YN465 also. The YN465 needs a receiver in order to work wireless. My question is would the 7D be able to fire both flashes if the YN465 was paired with it's own wireless receiver? Or would the 568 need to be paired with the same receiver as the 465?

Thanks!!!

The wireless master capability of the 7D is designed for Canon's optical wireless remote slave flash control system. It sends out two or five byte command sequences prior to flash triggering, in order to command and control the slaves. Several of Canon's own flashes are compatible with this system, as are also several third party units. Flash units requiring separate triggers usually work only as "dumb slaves", i.e. reacting to the single flash from a manually controller flash gun, or possibly to the second flash from an E-TTL system, which emits a measuring flash prior to the illuminating flash.

I use only Canon's flashes to avoid this issue, but that's a general answer. Someone who knows about the specifics of your models can probably give a more specific answer as well.

In a nutshell, the 568 is compatible with the 7D's popup as master; the 465 is not.

The most economical radio solution (for full manual and E-TTL control of both flashes) is the YN-622C transceiver. It provides control of both flashes from the 7D's flash control menu.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1212530

Simple 'fire only' triggers can be used also with the loss of E-TTL. Power settings will have to be set on the flash. You could control the 568 optically with the 7D's popup and use a simple radio transmitter linked to the PC sync connection of the 7D to fire the 465 (with a matching receiver) in manual mode.

oldvultureface wrote in post #15639196
In a nutshell, the 568 is compatible with the 7D's popup as master; the 465 is not.

The most economical radio solution (for full manual and E-TTL control of both flashes) is the YN-622C transceiver. It provides control of both flashes from the 7D's flash control menu.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1212530

Simple 'fire only' triggers can be used also with the loss of E-TTL. Power settings will have to be set on the flash. You could control the 568 optically with the 7D's popup and use a simple radio transmitter linked to the PC sync connection of the 7D to fire the 465 (with a matching receiver) in manual mode.

Cool thanks!!! I think with the price of the YN622 I'd just be better off getting a yn560ii as a second wireless flash.

winters19 wrote in post #15640294
Cool thanks!!! I think with the price of the YN622 I'd just be better off getting a yn560ii as a second wireless flash.

You are comparing apples and oranges here with one solution being ETTL and another is manual only.

gonzogolf wrote in post #15640302
You are comparing apples and oranges here with one solution being ETTL and another is manual only.

Didn't think of that..... hmmmm....... The 465 is ETTL, but I was just really looking for something to trigger some back lighting for studio shots. Jeez O Pete, decisions, decisions!!! lol

winters19 wrote in post #15640336
Didn't think of that..... hmmmm....... The 465 is ETTL, but I was just really looking for something to trigger some back lighting for studio shots. Jeez O Pete, decisions, decisions!!! lol

Using manual flash for back lighting is fine as long as you know what you are getting into. Honestly for studio work, you want to be in manual for all your flashes as your shot to shot consistency is much higher in Manual mode.

gonzogolf wrote in post #15640346
Using manual flash for back lighting is fine as long as you know what you are getting into. Honestly for studio work, you want to be in manual for all your flashes as your shot to shot consistency is much higher in Manual mode.

Cool man, thanks for the input! I don't really own a studio but was doing a mock up of a portable studio in my house last night using the 568 flash with an umbrella in manual mode. Most of my work is done outside, I'm just looking to expand my options since the weather will never be in my favor 100%.

Here's the results I got last night. I was also using a light stand with a completely different temperature than the flash which casted an orange luminance on the right side of the subject (their right side). Was able to tone it down in PP but it also took away from the skin tones when I tried to fix the orange. So far I'm happy with the mediocre results, but I think I can do better with another OCF.

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oldvultureface wrote in post #15639196
In a nutshell, the 568 is compatible with the 7D's popup as master; the 465 is not.

The most economical radio solution (for full manual and E-TTL control of both flashes) is the YN-622C transceiver. It provides control of both flashes from the 7D's flash control menu.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1212530

Simple 'fire only' triggers can be used also with the loss of E-TTL. Power settings will have to be set on the flash. You could control the 568 optically with the 7D's popup and use a simple radio transmitter linked to the PC sync connection of the 7D to fire the 465 (with a matching receiver) in manual mode.

Only the YN-565 and YN-568 can be used with the Canon wireless flash system. There is no way you could get the YN-465 or YN-560 to fire if you are using Canon wireless. Simple "fire only" triggers won't work either. How would you trigger them?

msowsun wrote in post #15641943
How would you trigger them?

Simple. 7D's popup set to master in E-TTL. 580EX II in the picture as a manual mode free agent slave. 430EX II as main light camera left in E-TTL wireless slave mode. Old Sunpak fired with a simple CBS receiver, the transmitter being plugged in the 7D's PC port. Kludgy, but it works.

I remember reading that the PC port didn't work when you have a flash in the hotshoe. Is that right?

In any case I guess it does work using just the pop-up flash as shown above. Thanks.

msowsun wrote in post #15642105
I remember reading that the PC port didn't work when you have a flash in the hotshoe. Is that right?

I tried the 7D with the 430EX II, E-TTL mode, in the hotshoe and the CBS transmitter wired to the PC port. It did sync with the Sunpak.

msowsun wrote in post #15642105
I remember reading that the PC port didn't work when you have a flash in the hotshoe. Is that right?

In any case I guess it does work using just the pop-up flash as shown above. Thanks.

No. The sync port is active. The manual flashes he is considering have optical slaves that

k, so will the 7D trigger a yn622?

winters19 wrote in post #15648118
k, so will the 7D trigger a yn622?

winters19 wrote in post #15648118
My question is would the 7D be able to fire both flashes if the YN465 was paired with it's own wireless receiver? Or would the 568 need to be paired with the same receiver as the 465?

With three 622s, one in the 7D's hotshoe and one attached to each flash, you would have full control, both manual and E-TTL, of the 568 and 465 flashes.