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Feb 23, 2013 07:57 |  #1

Hey guys so i wanted to get my first L lens, i was originally going to get the 50mm 1.2 as it is my favourite focal length. but because i already have the 1.8 atm i thought i should get something else. My problem is that i shoot everything from portraits to landscape so i don't know which lens to get first.

I was thinking between the 24-105mm f4, 16-35mm f2.8, 135mm f2.
but because in the future i was going to get the 24-70 2.8 IS (when that becomes available hopefully) i thought maybe the 24-105 isn't such a great idea, but it is very versatile...

What do you guys recommend? Also what was your first L lens?


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Feb 23, 2013 08:14 |  #2

I'm assuming you have a full frame body, if so I would suggest the new stellar 24-70L II. Honestly you will not need IS unless you shoot videos. Saying that, there are plenty new Canon IS primes recently that will do the video job perfectly.

Like you, my favourite focal length is 50 so I think this zoom range will suit you well.


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Feb 23, 2013 11:49 |  #3

nathan549 wrote in post #15643012 (external link)
I was thinking between the 24-105mm f4, 16-35mm f2.8, 135mm f2.
but because in the future i was going to get the 24-70 2.8 IS (when that becomes available hopefully) i thought maybe the 24-105 isn't such a great idea, but it is very versatile...

What do you guys recommend? Also what was your first L lens?

those are 3 very different lenses. one is a walkaround lens, one is ultrawide angle and the other is a portrait/short telephoto.

what do you shoot?


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Feb 23, 2013 12:06 |  #4

first one I got was the 85L, didn't really care much for it until I got a FF body. This was followed by the 100L, 70-200 (had 3 of the 2.8 models), 17-40, 24-70, 300 2.8. If I were doing it again I'd pick up either the 24-70 or 17-40 first. These two got a lot of time on my cameras.




  
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Feb 23, 2013 12:14 |  #5

Forget the 'which L'

Buy the FL range that best increases your shooting opportunities over what you currently own. If it happens to be L, great. If it doesn't, keep in mind that optical performance of a number of non-L lenses meet or even exceed L performance...the 100-400mm L is not a sterling optical performer, for example, it is quite mediocre optically.


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Feb 23, 2013 12:57 |  #6

Yeah, don't become an "L-coholic". A lens doesn't have to be an L to be good. About half my lenses are Ls, the rest aren't. Buy the focal length and features that meet your needs best, who cares if it has a red stripe on it or not.

If you are a wedding photographer or portrait photographer, the 50L or 85L might be just the ticket. If not, a 50/1.4 or 85/1.8 might be a better choice for general purpose shooting.

A lot of folks really like the 100/2.8L macro... But for me the 100/2.8 USM is a better choice. Most of the time for macro I'm using a tripod or monopod anyway, so the IS that the L brings to the table really doesn't do a lot for me. So, rather than spend $400 extra for the 100L, I spent $160 for the tripod mounting ring for the 100/2.8 USM.

Besides, the build of the 100/2.8 USM is identical to that of the 180/3.5L. The 100mm just doesn't need exotic glass (part of how Canon defines an L, req'd for it to get a red stripe). I also like that the 100/2.8 USM shares 58mm filters with several of my other lenses, where the 100L might require me to get some 62mm filters.

Another example, I have a couple Tilt Shift lenses... one is an L the other isn't. Yet they are absolutely identical in build and, if anything, the non-L offers slightly better image quality. Once again it's a situation where the non-L just doesn't need fancy glass to do its job very well, so doesn't meet Canon's criteria and qualify to get a red stripe painted on it.

Some Ls are excellent and unique. With others there are very good and capable alternatives.

I'll likely never own a 24-105L.... a 28-135 costs 1/4 or 1/5 as much and gives nearly identical image quality. It's also close focusing, fast focusing and nearly equal in IS performance. It's just not as well built/sealed. But, hey, they both get "zoom creep" (the 28-135 is probably more prone to it) and for the money, I'll take the 28-135 and be happy.

If you're holding your breath for a 24-70/2.8 with IS.... well, good luck with that. The 24-70/2.8 II was intro'd within the past year. The previous model was intro'd in 2002. So you might expect the next update in approx. 2022... and who knows if Canon will ever add IS to it. There is the new 24-70/4 IS coming soon... which might be a good match with the 6D in particular. Otherwise, there's the Tamron 24-70/2.8 VC. But, frankly, I use a 24-70 and see little need for IS on it. 24-70 is a pretty large and cumbersome "walkaround" lens... I often use the 28-135 instead when I want to travel light. My favorite use for the 24-70 is as a portrait zoom on a crop camera. It's a little short for portraits on a full frame camera.

I love the 135/2L on my full frame camera. I've always enjoyed using that focal length, but for a long time was only using crop sensor cameras. The day I ordered my 5DII, I ordered a 135mm to use with it.... I knew I'd want it and it hasn't disappointed. It'd be nice if Canon would update the 135 with IS (it's considerably more beneficial on a telephoto like this, IMO), and perhaps with a curved blade aperture... but there's really not a whole lot to improve.

Tell us more about your purposes, needs, as well as what other lenses you have and what camera(s) you'll be using them upon, and perhaps we can give you better recommendations... tho they might or might not be Ls.

My "first L" was actually four lenses: 17-35/2.8L, 70-200/2.8L IS, 300/2.8L IS and 500/4L IS. I was switching from another camera system and shooting film at the time (initially with a pair of EOS-3s). I still have three out of those four lenses. I've added a number of other lenses over the years since, as needed... both L and non-L.


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Feb 23, 2013 13:06 |  #7

Buy a used 24-105mm. They're pretty cheap right now. You could always resell it and won't take a big loss.


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Feb 23, 2013 13:07 |  #8

what body are you on?


i wouldn't hold out hope for a 24-70f2.8 IS coming out soon...


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Feb 23, 2013 13:12 |  #9

lots of great non-L lenses out there too. 10-22, 100 macro, 85 1.8, 50 1.4, etc. it doesnt have to have a red ring to be good, its how you use them

i have seen photos posted here taken with a t2i kit that are amazing (glamour, portraits, landscape, etc).

my point is, you dont need expensive glass to be good. as further proof, i have the best of the best gear and i still take less than mediocre photos :)


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Feb 23, 2013 13:19 |  #10

What do you like to shoot most?
What body?


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Feb 23, 2013 18:25 |  #11

My first L was a 17-40L it was great, my preferred focal length is 35mm I find it pleasing to the eye. I say the 24-70 2.8II Is probably wont come out until next year that's why I just bought one today.
Non L primes are great choices I have a 85 1.8 that's good had the 50 1.4 gave it to my nephew so I could get my 35 1.4L.
Out of the 3 you listed I would say the 16-35L I was going to get that lens but decided on the 24-70 2.8LII instead.


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Feb 23, 2013 21:48 |  #12

Unless you shoot lots of wide, or lots of medium-long, meaning you would want the 16-35 f/2.8 or 70-200 f/2,8 (I have both), everyone should have a 24-105... At least on full frame that is. There are raging debates about it on crop, versus the 17-55, but like many in that war, I preferred the 24-105 when all I had was a crop body (I shoot FF and crop now).

If you want the absolute most bokeh from a zoom, and/or you shoot a lotta low light and need to avoid motion blur, then the 24-70 f/2.8 II would get the nod over the 24-105 (I have the 24-70 too). But since the 24-70 doesn't have IS, you can actually shoot static subjects hand held in lower light with the 24-105.

If you can try a 24-105 in a store, that may help to make up your mind. It may not be the latest and "greatest", but for overall general purpose use, If I could only have one L, it would be the 24-105. It was my first of eight L's, and I don't see how I could ever be without one.




  
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Feb 23, 2013 23:12 |  #13

I really love the 135mm...just something about it..


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Feb 24, 2013 01:27 |  #14

Depends on what you're looking to do with the lens. With your 3 choices I think its kind of difficult to meet the criteria of landscape to portraits. Although the 24-105 can take care of that, portraits at f4 with 105mm being your longest FL is kinda meh. If anything if you can find a 24-70/2.8 for cheap I'd say go for it then resell it when you're ready for the MKII or whatever comes out after (you don't need IS for that focal length anywho). The 135L is a beast for portraits though!


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Feb 24, 2013 06:48 |  #15

I got a 24-105 in my 5D3 kit and love it as a general purpose lens. It's a great focal length range for me and the IS is useful. The only drawback for me is it's only f/4, but I kept my Tamron 28-75 2.8 and Canon 85 1.8 for when I need wider apertures. I'll probably end up getting rid of the 28-75 2.8 because I really haven't used it much since getting the 24-105.


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