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Canon 70-200mm f/4 L IS vs Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 L IS for landscape/travel photo?

 
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Mar 05, 2013 23:28 as a reply to  @ post 15682123 |  #46

And comparing at 70mm (a weak point of the 70-200 f/4 IS), wide open f/4 for both, 100% crops:

again the difference is easier to see if you save the image and then flip between them in a viewer instead of trying to scroll back and forth or dart your eye up and down

70-300L (set to 72mm to equalize FOV):

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Mar 05, 2013 23:31 |  #47

I just bought my first "L" after much debate. I believe a few of the folks above weighed in on my processing of needs. In the end, I went with the 2.8 II. I don't mind the extra weight as I'm a pretty solid 6' 30yo man. I thought about the extra reach of the 70-300, but thought, overall, it was a compromise lens (comparable -- not in focus speed and IS, but IQ -- to the non "L" 70-300). I decided if I want the extra reach I will get the 1.4x extender, but will probably just buy a 100-400 sooner than later.

By the way, I received the 70-200 2.8 II today, and after playing with it for an hour I know I made the right choice. It is truly the most versatile zoom in Canon's line.


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Mar 06, 2013 01:40 |  #48

Congrats on getting this new lens... I am not sure what you actually mean here.

cbusjer wrote in post #15682144 (external link)
... I thought about the extra reach of the 70-300, but thought, overall, it was a compromise lens (comparable -- not in focus speed and IS, but IQ -- to the non "L" 70-300).

The 70-300L has a much better IQ that the non-L version. Mine was OK on crop, but terrible on FF owing to poor corner sharpness. In my experience, the 70-300L is sharper across the frame and has better contrast than non-L.


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Mar 06, 2013 06:51 |  #49

sebr wrote in post #15682353 (external link)
Congrats on getting this new lens... I am not sure what you actually mean here.

The 70-300L has a much better IQ that the non-L version. Mine was OK on crop, but terrible on FF owing to poor corner sharpness. In my experience, the 70-300L is sharper across the frame and has better contrast than non-L.

Yeah, my 70-300L is as sharp as the 70-200 f/2.8 II that I sold to get it, :lol: But either way, congrats on the new lens! Enjoy it :)


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Mar 06, 2013 12:20 |  #50

sebr wrote in post #15672273 (external link)
It can go to f/4.0 from 70 to 103 mm...

70-103mm = f/4.0
104-154mm = f/4.5
155-228mm = f/5.0
229-300mm = f/5.6

Thank you for this. :cool:

I'll test out my 70-200L (f/4) at 4.5 and 5 at those focal ranges and see how I get on. If it still gives decent useability and bokeh, I think an upgrade to a 70-300L might be in order.


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Mar 07, 2013 00:54 |  #51

cbusjer wrote in post #15682144 (external link)
I thought about the extra reach of the 70-300, but thought, overall, it was a compromise lens (comparable -- not in focus speed and IS, but IQ -- to the non "L" 70-300).

It's better IQ than the non-L. Sharper across the range, especially at 300mm and better contrast above 200mm. Also the edges are much sharper on FF where it falls apart with the non-L.




  
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Mar 07, 2013 09:48 |  #52

cbusjer wrote in post #15682144 (external link)
II thought about the extra reach of the 70-300, but thought, overall, it was a compromise lens (comparable -- not in focus speed and IS, but IQ -- to the non "L" 70-300). I decided if I want the extra reach I will get the 1.4x extender, but will probably just buy a 100-400 sooner than later.

By the way, I received the 70-200 2.8 II today, and after playing with it for an hour I know I made the right choice. It is truly the most versatile zoom in Canon's line.

Congrats on the new lens - enjoy!

As for the 70-300L, I agree with the other posters: it's very far from being a compromise lens. It blows the non-L out of the water in every respect including IQ. If I could bring myself to sell my 70-200 f4 IS, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.


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Mar 07, 2013 14:35 |  #53

Thanks to the folks that put up the comparison shots. I will certainly give the 70-300L a much closer look.


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Mar 07, 2013 15:09 |  #54

I too, am being held hostage by my 70-200F/4IS. It's just too good to let go.


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Mar 07, 2013 15:56 |  #55

dizzye36m3 wrote in post #15688638 (external link)
I too, am being held hostage by my 70-200F/4IS. It's just too good to let go.

Glad I'm not the only one!


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Mar 12, 2013 10:59 |  #56

Question: How fast is the AF on this lens? Comparable to 2.8 IS II or the F4/L?


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Mar 12, 2013 11:03 |  #57

fiveohmike wrote in post #15706471 (external link)
Question: How fast is the AF on this lens? Comparable to 2.8 IS II or the F4/L?

Lightning fast in good lighting situations, but viewfinder is a bit dim.

Almost the same as 2.8L II and f/4L IS. Where f/4 and f/2.8 win compared to 70-300L is in low light or late evenings. I never encountered an issue though in terms of AF and have shot birds and fast cars without any issues. 5D mark III/7D and 70-300L tracking is amazing.


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Mar 12, 2013 11:04 |  #58

fiveohmike wrote in post #15706471 (external link)
Question: How fast is the AF on this lens? Comparable to 2.8 IS II or the F4/L?

The 70-300L? Comparable to the 2.8 IS II.


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Mar 12, 2013 11:05 |  #59

Good to know, I am thinking about letting my 70-200 F4L go in favor of the 70-300L and 400L 5.6 combo for the upcoming racing season.


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Mar 12, 2013 11:08 |  #60

fiveohmike wrote in post #15706471 (external link)
Question: How fast is the AF on this lens? Comparable to 2.8 IS II or the F4/L?

Lightning fast. These were taken wide-open at 300 mm. This lens nails focus, even on very fast-moving subjects such as these.


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