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6D + kit vs 550D + better glass

 
maloush7al
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Feb 27, 2013 12:23 |  #1

It's nice to keep coming back to the forum discussions : )

My current set is this:
Canon 550D + 18-55mm kit + sigma 17-50mm 2.8 OS + sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 + canon 55-250mm 4-5.6

and I have some cash to spend (~ 1200 $)

so I can go for the 6D + 24-105 + a slider or so -after selling my current set-
or I may upgrade my lenses + slider and more stuff

I shoot photos -portrait/studio/weddin​gs + street photography- , and do videos for a while now...both important

Why I want a 6D ?
* Great Hi-ISO performance - photo+video -
* Full frame for better color rendition + better use of lenses
* More durable body


what holds me back?
* I can't get another lens or accessory for a while -still need small stuff-
* It took me a while to get that set of lenses


so should i go for it? share your thoughts




  
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Feb 27, 2013 12:29 |  #2

Canon 6D


Canon EOS 6D ~ 24-105mm F4 L ~ 85mm F1.8 USM

  
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Feb 27, 2013 12:51 |  #3

portrait/studio/weddin​gs + street photography

Don't know why you're even asking.
With FF you could always benefit from old good primes, which are not expensive at all but provides adequate IQ.

$100 50 1.4 MF prime on 5Dc.

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$60 135 F2.8 on 5Dc.

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Feb 27, 2013 12:56 |  #4

I'd go better glass. What fun is a DSLR with 1 lens?


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Feb 27, 2013 14:16 |  #5

kf095 wrote in post #15658142 (external link)
Don't know why you're even asking.
With FF you could always benefit from old good primes, which are not expensive at all but provides adequate IQ.

$100 50 1.4 MF prime on 5Dc.

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$60 135 F2.8 on 5Dc.

QUOTED IMAGE

This is my plan when I buy my 6D + EG-S screen :)

Which lenses were those? Takumar?


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Feb 27, 2013 14:28 as a reply to  @ EverydayGetaway's post |  #6

Those two were cheapest and easiest to get.
OM. Zuiko 50 1.4. and Tele-Lentar 135 f 2.8.

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Standard screen was fine, I used AF confirmation chipped adapters.

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Feb 27, 2013 14:34 |  #7

6D without a doubt.


Canon 6D | Fuji X100 | Fuji XE-2 | Canon 24-105L | Canon 50 1.4 | Canon 85 1.8 | Canon EF 70-300 IS USM | 430EX | 270EX

  
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Feb 27, 2013 14:42 |  #8

kf095 wrote in post #15658460 (external link)
Those two were cheapest and easiest to get.
OM. Zuiko 50 1.4. and Tele-Lentar 135 f 2.8.


Standard screen was fine, I used AF confirmation chipped adapters.

Thanks you! They'll definitely be on my watch list :)


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Feb 27, 2013 14:47 |  #9

Lien wrote in post #15658478 (external link)
6D without a doubt.

That's easy for you to say because you have a complete lens kit including some fast primes.

OP is going to be losing his ultrawide, telephotos, and dropping to an f4 standard (which gives back 90% of the DOF advantage vs f2.8 on APS-C)

FF is great, but not if you gimp your lens kit. And lets be honest, you going to really show up for a wedding with an old $100 adapted film lens?


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Feb 27, 2013 15:04 |  #10

portrait/studio/weddin​gs + street photography

Non of those needs

ultrawide, telephotos

And showing up at weddings with 55-250 isn't any different compare to 50 1.4 and 135 2.8 MF lens.
It is hard to believe here and now , but in real world those lens were in use for weddings and such.
Actually, were are real photogs who are using modern Zeiss MF ZE glass on Canon FF DSLRs.


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Feb 27, 2013 15:13 |  #11

Sorry, I just don't subscribe to the FF at any cost mantra and I've used enough manual adapted lenses to know it's not a realistic substitute for most people. If you can't afford to outfit a FF kit well, then you will end up worse off.

I'd build a good lens kit with some lenses that can move to FF and then upgrade after you get a few jobs under the belt.

Are you going to be able to afford any backup gear if you go FF?


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Feb 27, 2013 15:20 |  #12

The iso increase the 6d will give you is not to be taken lightly, it is stupidly better.


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Feb 27, 2013 16:37 |  #13

tkbslc wrote in post #15658514 (external link)
That's easy for you to say because you have a complete lens kit including some fast primes.

OP is going to be losing his ultrawide, telephotos, and dropping to an f4 standard (which gives back 90% of the DOF advantage vs f2.8 on APS-C)

FF is great, but not if you gimp your lens kit. And lets be honest, you going to really show up for a wedding with an old $100 adapted film lens?

I did the same thing the OP is thinking. I sold all my crop gear to fund my 6D kit. Fast primes came after the 6D.

Sold my 7D - Sigma 17-50 - Sigma 30 1.4 - Sigma 10-20

Couldnt resist the fast primes in the end, I do a lot of indoor shooting. The 6D with the 24-105 was well worth any trouble in my opinion.


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Feb 27, 2013 21:05 |  #14

you got right into it : )

I've some manual primes (35mm - 58mm - 85mm ) great IQ ,but the thing is they aren't practical in rapid motion/ I can't handle them fast enough
I'm not into the way the lenses look,It's about the IQ,I use both lenses in weddings BTW

and the cheap-o lenses some time focuses better than me in the dark + they have short focus throw if manual focus needed

(another point for the 6D...brighter VF)

I use UWA and tele lenses in weddings and in some concerts as well




  
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Feb 28, 2013 05:19 as a reply to  @ maloush7al's post |  #15

If you prefer shooting in lower light/natural light, and find yourself constrained by ISO/Noise limits, then the 6D will be a tremendous boost to your talents. On the other hand, if you can keep your ISO to 400 for weddings (you didn't mention anything about flash equipment) then you'll love a great 70-200 2.8.

What are the pictures that you are struggling to capture ?

I have a T2i (love it) and Santa handed me a 6D (no idea I was that good this year). It's really nice having two. The T2i is a strong back up. The price of the 6D is going to drop a little bit, so there isn't a rush.


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