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Mar 01, 2013 19:47 |  #1

Both Raptors were found in the Boise, Idaho area.

This one was taken in January.

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I took this one today. Smaller that a Red-tailed Hawk.
I think maybe a Juvenile Coopers or Sharp-shinned Hawk.
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Mar 01, 2013 20:10 |  #2

I could be wrong, but the first looks a lot like the prairie merlin I got in mid January(especially with the white line over his eye). Mine for comparison.

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Mar 01, 2013 21:28 |  #3

Sharp-shinned and Cooper's Hawks can be difficult to tell apart, but this one is a Sharp-shinned due to the very small head, stocky wings, short body, and short tail (relative to the other accipiters), no doubt of the ID....regardless if it looked big in the field. Size is the absolute worst criteria to judge when all the other traits point in one favor.

Maybe canonloader can add his expertise on this accipiter?

And yes, the other one is a Merlin.




  
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Mar 01, 2013 21:44 |  #4

Shackleton wrote in post #15666748 (external link)
I could be wrong, but the first looks a lot like the prairie merlin I got in mid January(especially with the white line over his eye). Mine for comparison.

Thanks for the comparison. I was leaning that way.

Jerry Liguori wrote in post #15666982 (external link)
Sharp-shinned and Cooper's Hawks can be difficult to tell apart, but this one is a Sharp-shinned due to the very small head, stocky wings, short body, and short tail (relative to the other accipiters), no doubt of the ID....regardless if it looked big in the field. Size is the absolute worst criteria to judge when all the other traits point in one favor.

Maybe canonloader can add his expertise on this accipiter?

And yes, the other one is a Merlin.

Thanks Jerry, I was leaning toward Sharp-shinned also, due to the small head, coarse streaking on breast and the short tail.
Just started birding and I have the most difficult time with Raptors.


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Mar 02, 2013 00:32 |  #5

The very first photo is a Merlin (look at the tail bands in your field guide as a good starting point).

The 2nd photo is a Cooper's Hawk. The long, straight leading edge to the wings is a good starting point.


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Mar 02, 2013 07:38 |  #6

Merlin and Sharp-shinned Hawk and Jerry, you're crackin me up.


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Mar 02, 2013 13:53 |  #7

Glad to hear it, thanks Chuck.




  
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