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Mar 04, 2013 16:25 |  #1

Has anyone ever noticed a big difference in viewing images in LR vs viewing them in Windows picture viewer? In my case LR picture are crisp and sharp. If I view the same image, same file same computer in windows picture viewer it is noticably softer. In order to make sure it is not my image ,I export the file to my ipad and it is once again crisp and sharp. Is this a setting in Windows viewer or just the nature of the beast. I ask because if I give a person an image that I see as perfect and razor sharp, if they take it home to view and use Windows picture viewer I afraid it will look soft.




  
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Mar 04, 2013 16:34 |  #2

Have you eliminate the factor of display, and then the very good background color of LR as opposed to WinVr.


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Mar 04, 2013 16:41 |  #3

The world is imperfect and that is not fair. Windows Picture Viewer is very imperfect and that is even less fair.


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Mar 04, 2013 16:43 |  #4

(if you are working with raw photos) I believe windows picture viewer will use the embedded jpeg photo in the raw file to view it. Lightroom on the other hand will extract the raw data then apply the default Lightroom adjustments on the raw data to create a photo.




  
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Mar 04, 2013 22:10 |  #5

The display has been ruled out. It is the same computer monitor and all. Even when converted to jpeg in LR it is razor sharp.....viewed in Windows picture viewer witch happens to be a default viewer on a lot of computers it downgrades the images big time....the real test was exporting the file via email and opening it on my iPad. Once again razor sharp! This happens on all images I view in windows picture viewers. Seems that windows picture viewer may just be a big dog! Any suggestions on a picture viewer for Windows that will show an actual representation of the image?




  
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Mar 04, 2013 22:26 |  #6

If you post both a screen shot from Lightroom and then one from the Windows viewer that clearly shows the problem/difference we may be able to give more "informed" input. Just make sure the shots conform to the POTN limits (1024 pixels at the widest, no bigger than 150KB file size).


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Mar 05, 2013 09:53 |  #7

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The display has been ruled out. It is the same computer monitor and all. Even when converted to jpeg in LR it is razor sharp.....viewed in Windows picture viewer witch happens to be a default viewer on a lot of computers it downgrades the images big time....the real test was exporting the file via email and opening it on my iPad. Once again razor sharp! This happens on all images I view in windows picture viewers. Seems that windows picture viewer may just be a big dog! Any suggestions on a picture viewer for Windows that will show an actual representation of the image?

Do you realize that Windows Picture Viewer looks at a relatively low resolution preview image imbedded by the camera into the RAW data, while LR generates a brand new preview according to the preview generation quality parameters that you set up within LR?!


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Mar 05, 2013 11:02 |  #8

Wilt wrote in post #15679161 (external link)
Do you realize that Windows Picture Viewer looks at a relatively low resolution preview image imbedded by the camera into the RAW data, while LR generates a brand new preview according to the preview generation quality parameters that you set up within LR?!

So how do you explain the image degradation of a jpeg?




  
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Mar 05, 2013 13:58 |  #9

flashpoint99 wrote in post #15679444 (external link)
So how do you explain the image degradation of a jpeg?

If the JPEG has a large pixel dimension (say, the original camera resolution of 5000+ pixels wide) then Windows Picture Viewer must resample it to make it fit on the screen. Presumably, it doesn't do as good a job at resampling an existing JPEG, compared to Lightroom's freshly rendered preview of the raw file (plus edits, if any).


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Mar 06, 2013 09:10 as a reply to  @ nathancarter's post |  #10

I don't use Windows Picture viewer, but I have noticed some differences in pictures when they are displayed on the desktop background or screen saver, which may utilize the same engine. One picture in particular that had to have quite a bit of noise reduction that looks great in all other programs looks very very bad on the desktop background.


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Mar 06, 2013 09:44 |  #11

Here is the issue. I shoot dance recitals. I take great time and effort to make sure I capture sharp,focused images, the results I get are very very nice. Normally I present the dancers parents images on a thump drive for their personal use. Unfortunately a good majority of these people will view the shots on WinVr. The majority of these people plug in the thumb drive and open it to view the pics not knowing the images have been degraded. They dont use LR or PS ect...What alternative can I suggest to these people besides WinVr witch is there default viewer?




  
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Mar 06, 2013 11:40 |  #12

As I requested a day ago:

tonylong wrote in post #15677808 (external link)
If you post both a screen shot from Lightroom and then one from the Windows viewer that clearly shows the problem/difference we may be able to give more "informed" input. Just make sure the shots conform to the POTN limits (1024 pixels at the widest, no bigger than 150KB file size).


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Mar 06, 2013 13:08 |  #13

Asked an answered. Really dont see the point of posting a couple pictures of pictures off a monitor. Apparently this is a know issue with WinVr. Thanks for all the responses




  
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