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Still can't get over it 6D autofocus 11 points

 
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Mar 11, 2013 10:18 |  #376

sega62 wrote in post #15702018 (external link)
I would have gone with a slightly more cross points, and no GPS, which you can always add in the end.

;)

I agree, but that's you and me. They might be aiming for the consumer traveler with this camera, more than the sports shooter.


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Mar 11, 2013 10:30 |  #377

Guys. Even if we all owned 1DX bodies, it wouldn't make us better photographers.




  
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Mar 11, 2013 10:34 |  #378

Crashoran wrote in post #15702084 (external link)
Guys. Even if we all owned 1DX bodies, it wouldn't make us better photographers.

Maybe you, but me I would gain from it!;)




  
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Mar 11, 2013 10:53 |  #379

90% of my plans for the 6D will be still life, landscapes and astrophotography. The remaining 10% would be a mix of candid shots, aquaria (a mix of semi still + macro), and wildlife. From everything I've read, including all the crybaby quibbling in this thread, the 6D is very well suited for my needs and I wouldn't really gain by going to the 5D3 with it's extra AF s points and extra crosses.

(I swear, this thread is worse than the 2012 presidential election debates. Talking points, tangents, fallacious arguments, and very little substantiation)




  
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Mar 11, 2013 10:56 as a reply to  @ Gomer's post |  #380

(I swear, this thread is worse than the 2012 presidential election debates. Talking points, tangents, fallacious arguments, and very little substantiation)

capt. kirk and spock beamed up a long time ago.


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Mar 11, 2013 10:57 |  #381
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Gomer wrote in post #15702148 (external link)
90% of my plans for the 6D will be still life, landscapes and astrophotography. The remaining 10% would be a mix of candid shots, aquaria (a mix of semi still + macro), and wildlife. From everything I've read, including all the crybaby quibbling in this thread, the 6D is very well suited for my needs and I wouldn't really gain by going to the 5D3 with it's extra AF s points and extra crosses.

(I swear, this thread is worse than the 2012 presidential election debates. Talking points, tangents, fallacious arguments, and very little substantiation)

Everything in your post is all about you. I, I ,I.... Maybe...just maybe other people use their equipment for different things than you. Have you given this a simple thought in your brain before you posted your ignorant remarks about "crybabies". I didn't think so.




  
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Mar 11, 2013 11:02 |  #382

Maybe, just maybe, there are tools for different purposes, and come at a different price point. Sounds like you should start a thread about the 200mm F/2 being a terrible macro lens, and costing way too much.




  
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Mar 11, 2013 11:18 |  #383

Gomer wrote in post #15702178 (external link)
Maybe, just maybe, there are tools for different purposes, and come at a different price point. Sounds like you should start a thread about the 200mm F/2 being a terrible macro lens, and costing way too much.

lol, thats very well said.


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Mar 11, 2013 11:35 |  #384

sega62 wrote in post #15694746 (external link)
After reading so many reviews and infos about the Canon 6D, I'm still wondering
who came with this huge mistake, not having a great autofocus on a $2000 camera.

Sure it has GPS, WiFi......got a full frame camera at a neat price, but what
does it give you to have all this mojo without a good autofocus, or should I say a fast and great autofocus.

We all know that the autofocus is a MUST for high end camera, and yet Canon produce
something similar as the 5dmkII that was made 4 years ago.
Its not that its bad, its got competition, its technology that Canon has already, so why not use it.

In my book, they really did not respect the customer, I'd rather have no GPS and get a proper autofocus!

gee......

Give us more info. What lenses are you using? I ask because I may be a prospective 6D user and from all accounts have heard the 6D's autofocus is better than the 7D.


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Mar 11, 2013 12:13 |  #385
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anomie wrote in post #15702270 (external link)
Give us more info. What lenses are you using? I ask because I may be a prospective 6D user and from all accounts have heard the 6D's autofocus is better than the 7D.

Yes, the center is better, but the 7D outer points are miles ahead of the 6d. Really need to understand what people are talking about as they throw around AF in many different scenarios as if they are all the same. If you use outer focus points or if you want to track focus...the 7D is the way to go.




  
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Mar 11, 2013 12:21 |  #386

sega62 wrote in post #15702018 (external link)
Very TRUE, Canon wants my money, they forget one thing:Competition and they are going to lose a lot of sales on that one.

Does'nt take a genius to do the math....i'm not talking about you, but new customers that need a FF. you really think they are gonna tell em that Canon has the best for their money?
Maybe, but surely not.

So for all new buyers, the other brand will be a winner.
In my case, I got to much to lose, too many lens and flash!
And on top, I don't like the ergo , the washed out colors......

If you were at the head of Canon and see that the competition does great, what would you do, adjust the AF so its the customer gets more, lets say without GPS, or ignore everyone and do has they have done, good AF but could improve.

I would have gone with a slightly more cross points, and no GPS, which you can always add in the end.

;)


OK. So which competing camera are you going to get for less money that does the things you want it to do without compromising some other things? Tell us about it? Tell us where the camera every bit as amazing as the 5D mkIII can be had for the price of a 6D. I'm all ears.


I am serious....and don't call me Shirley.
Canon 7D and a bunch of other stuff

  
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Mar 11, 2013 12:49 |  #387

this is all good stuff.. Esp for those in the market for a new mid level camera.


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Mar 11, 2013 13:03 |  #388
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kfreels wrote in post #15702434 (external link)
OK. So which competing camera are you going to get for less money that does the things you want it to do without compromising some other things? Tell us about it? Tell us where the camera every bit as amazing as the 5D mkIII can be had for the price of a 6D. I'm all ears.

From an AF point the D600 comes closer to the 5D3 than does the 6D. Just doesn't take Canon lenses...darn.




  
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Mar 11, 2013 13:03 |  #389

kfreels wrote in post #15702434 (external link)
OK. So which competing camera are you going to get for less money that does the things you want it to do without compromising some other things? Tell us about it? Tell us where the camera every bit as amazing as the 5D mkIII can be had for the price of a 6D. I'm all ears.

Used D700?? (but I bought the 6D instead, but that was the one that comes closest too answering the AF concern at that price point)


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Mar 11, 2013 13:17 |  #390

Hogloff wrote in post #15702603 (external link)
From an AF point the D600 comes closer to the 5D3 than does the 6D. Just doesn't take Canon lenses...darn.

Really? With a bunch of outer points no better than the 6D and 9 cross points all tghtly grouped in the centre of the frame giving only a little more coverage than the 6D's centre point? My D7000 (with the same focussing system as the D600) focusses worse than my 40D in low light, and that's comparing centre point only. No point comparing outer points on those two.


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