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chongkiat
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Mar 12, 2013 12:23 |  #1

Hi guys, as u can see my current gear list from my signature

As I have some saving this few month and plan to doing upgrading

1st option , I happy with my tamron, but after a year using, I found some limitation about this lens, it cant really focus well in low light and abit soft but usable at f2.8, so if I sell it off I got the cash to upgrad my tamron to a used canon 17-55mm f2.8 , is that canon lens sharp even wide open and the usm actually can focus fast and accurate in low light?


2nd option , I can sell off 10-22mm (my most less use lens) , tamron 1750, 60d with grip full set, left my 85mm f1.8 , topup some money to get the 6d + kit 24105mm and good to go? I dunno is that a downgrade auto focus system from 60d to 6d as I use alot of outer focus point when shooting, I mostly shoot family photo, kid and slow movement subject, but I stil no confident with the non crosstype auto focus from 6D

I love the 6D high performance ISO, but I do like how 60d have better auto focus system, I really in dilemma.


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Mar 12, 2013 16:25 |  #2

chongkiat wrote in post #15706728 (external link)
Hi guys, as u can see my current gear list from my signature

As I have some saving this few month and plan to doing upgrading

1st option , I happy with my tamron, but after a year using, I found some limitation about this lens, it cant really focus well in low light and abit soft but usable at f2.8, so if I sell it off I got the cash to upgrad my tamron to a used canon 17-55mm f2.8 , is that canon lens sharp even wide open and the usm actually can focus fast and accurate in low light?


2nd option , I can sell off 10-22mm (my most less use lens) , tamron 1750, 60d with grip full set, left my 85mm f1.8 , topup some money to get the 6d + kit 24105mm and good to go? I dunno is that a downgrade auto focus system from 60d to 6d as I use alot of outer focus point when shooting, I mostly shoot family photo, kid and slow movement subject, but I stil no confident with the non crosstype auto focus from 6D

I love the 6D high performance ISO, but I do like how 60d have better auto focus system, I really in dilemma.

Save yourself a lot of money and trouble. Keep the 60D and get the Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM lens. I have this lens and it is sharp, even wide open, and focuses well in low light. I have had this lens for about 3 years now and the only time that it will miss focus is if I haven't put the camera's AF point where it should've been. Always "User Error" not the lens.

Check Adorama for a good deal on a used lens. They generally have this lens for ~$800 and it comes with a 14 day no-questions-asked return policy and a 90 day warranty. http://www.adorama.com …er&utm_source=r​flaid62259 (external link)


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Mar 12, 2013 17:30 |  #3

You said you only used the Tamron for only a year. I has a 6 year warranty. Send it back to Tamron, it only takes a few weeks to get it back. Explain the problem, have them do a calibration to Canon Specs. They will probably clean and test the entire lens. My 18-270 came back completely rebuilt and is now tack sharp. I would try this first off, then make a decision on other lenses.


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Yogi ­ Bear
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Mar 12, 2013 17:48 |  #4

Bill Emmett wrote in post #15707919 (external link)
You said you only used the Tamron for only a year. I has a 6 year warranty. Send it back to Tamron, it only takes a few weeks to get it back. Explain the problem, have them do a calibration to Canon Specs. They will probably clean and test the entire lens. My 18-270 came back completely rebuilt and is now tack sharp. I would try this first off, then make a decision on other lenses.

The problems that he is experiencing: soft wide open, poor focus in low light, are inherent in this lens and are to be expected even in a brand new copy. They are not defects that can be fixed by a repair. Although he didn't say, the lens is also prolly slow/noisy to focus in good light too. This lens has its limits and the OP has found them.


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chongkiat
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Mar 13, 2013 00:26 |  #5

Bill Emmett wrote in post #15707919 (external link)
You said you only used the Tamron for only a year. I has a 6 year warranty. Send it back to Tamron, it only takes a few weeks to get it back. Explain the problem, have them do a calibration to Canon Specs. They will probably clean and test the entire lens. My 18-270 came back completely rebuilt and is now tack sharp. I would try this first off, then make a decision on other lenses.

as Yogi Bear say

Actually i didn't found any lost sharpness about this lens , it's great overall , what i found it is the lens didn't focus well in low light and quite soft wide open f2.8 (i think soft because of not 100% accurate in focus?) when shooting low light , i got no problem in day light , and recently i did research the 24-105mm lens , i see the size , weight is almost same as 17-55mm f2.8 , i like how small is 6D body with Full Frame sensor and i love travel light , that the reason i choose 60D over 7D at first :D

So i'm not sure 60D + 17-55mm f2.8 would be better than 6D 24-105mm ? Because They both is equally weight and size :D , just the focus system abit different


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Mar 13, 2013 01:13 |  #6

17-55 = FTW




  
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Mar 13, 2013 01:29 |  #7

Can't go wrong with the17-55.


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chongkiat
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Mar 13, 2013 05:10 |  #8

Wow, look like its stil a good choice between going 1755f2.8 rather than upgrade to 6d + 24105mm


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Mar 13, 2013 07:12 |  #9

Is that canon 17-55mm f2.8 IQ can be compared to 24105 or 2470 f2.8?


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Mar 13, 2013 07:39 |  #10

If you use a lot of off center points maybe stay with the 60d. As for me, I would take that 6D setup over the 60D setup any day.


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Mar 13, 2013 07:58 as a reply to  @ cputeq007's post |  #11

I have no time on the either (7D user most likely adding 5D3 soon but in that, "do or don't" conundrum myself) BUT from the posted samples in the 6D thread and my ideology of "buy the best current you can afford without going in debt"...i would say it's best you do the 6D/24-105 option...for what you shoot imho, outer points are a moot point again from what i'm seeing in the 6D thread...with FF you'll have some great HUGE PRINTS to use as home decor (something i like to do for my own home)


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Mar 13, 2013 08:48 |  #12

Stay with your current setup and grab the 17-55! :)


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Mar 13, 2013 09:01 |  #13
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First of all, ff + 24-105 > any aps-c + 17-55.

Now 6D owners here have been praising about how good the outer points are on the 6D.

Personally I don't have enough experience to say whether it is true or not.

Maybe you should go to a store and try one out yourself before making the decision?


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Mar 13, 2013 10:30 |  #14

kin2son wrote in post #15710201 (external link)
First of all, ff + 24-105 > any aps-c + 17-55.

Now 6D owners here have been praising about how good the outer points are on the 6D.

Personally I don't have enough experience to say whether it is true or not.

Maybe you should go to a store and try one out yourself before making the decision?



I always found that outer focus point in 1100d , 550d can lock the focus, but when zoom 100%, the subject sometime will off focus, while with 60d, I got no problem with it


So the IQ from 24-105mm f4 L is always better than 17-55mm f2.8 anytime?

I hope more 6D user will have their real world test abt using the outer for portrait shoot with at least a f2.8 lens hehe


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