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jschao
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Jan 13, 2006 08:39 |  #1

Hey,

I have Photoshop cs and cant get the RAW images to come up with i do File Browser. I have the Camera RAW plug-in but i am not sure if it is installed right. I think they are in the sub folder of photoshop. Also when i put my images on my computer the file name is ma3v7645.CR2 does it suppost to say CR2 or RAW, please help me, this is my first time shoting in RAW and any kind of help will be appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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Jan 13, 2006 08:55 |  #2

What camera model?



  
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Jan 13, 2006 09:16 |  #3

CR2 would be the correct file suffix for some cameras.

Assuming that you are using PSCS version 8.0 (not CS2), then you will need to download the combined package consisting of the Adobe Camera RAW (ACR) plug-in version 2.4 and the DNG stand-alone converter program which will convert the CR2 files to DNG files. Then the DNG files will be accepted by ACR version 2.4 in your version of PSCS.


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Jan 13, 2006 12:40 |  #4

The DNG workaround may not be necessary, if for instance he has a 20D, which is why I think it's important to know what kind of camera. The other big question, more a matter of convenience, is whether a card reader is being employed.



  
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Jan 14, 2006 20:52 |  #5

The 350D (XT) does require the dng converter. I believe the 20D is included in the 2.4 camera raw.


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Jan 14, 2006 22:58 as a reply to  @ wireburn's post |  #6

wireburn wrote:
The 350D (XT) does require the dng converter. I believe the 20D is included in the 2.4 camera raw.

Both the Rebel XT and the 20D were already supported before ACR v 3.3 came out, so I am pretty sure they were both there in v 2.4


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Jan 15, 2006 01:01 |  #7

XT isn't supported in ACR 2.4. I believe it was added in 3.1, which only works with CS2.



  
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Jan 15, 2006 03:14 |  #8

jfrancho is correct, according to the release notes for ACR 3.1.

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Jan 15, 2006 08:02 as a reply to  @ jfrancho's post |  #9

jfrancho wrote:
XT isn't supported in ACR 2.4. I believe it was added in 3.1, which only works with CS2.


I understood the context to be that we are assuming that you convert to DNG and that you then read that DNG file in ACR 2.4.
Doesn't that work? It has worked on my G5 files, but....?

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Extract from the DNG Specification"
"Because DNG metadata is publicly documented, software readers such as the Adobe Camera
Raw plug-in do not need camera-specific knowledge to decode and process files created by a
camera that supports DNG. That means reduced software maintenance and a more selfcontained
solution for end users."

I interpret that as meaning that a reader, such as ACR v2.4, that can read the DNG files, can read and process any RAW file that has been converted to DNG. If that is not correct, then Adobe has fallen way short on the promise of DNG.


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Jan 15, 2006 08:24 |  #10

on my CS2 mac version with Camera Raw 3.3 I can see 20D raws but with the 350D (XT?) I had to use the .dng workaround. It might be that I am a bit stupid?


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Jan 15, 2006 10:02 as a reply to  @ Robert_Lay's post |  #11

Robert_Lay wrote:
I understood the context to be that we are assuming that you convert to DNG and that you then read that DNG file in ACR 2.4.
Doesn't that work? It has worked on my G5 files, but....?

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Extract from the DNG Specification"
"Because DNG metadata is publicly documented, software readers such as the Adobe Camera
Raw plug-in do not need camera-specific knowledge to decode and process files created by a
camera that supports DNG. That means reduced software maintenance and a more selfcontained
solution for end users."

I interpret that as meaning that a reader, such as ACR v2.4, that can read the DNG files, can read and process any RAW file that has been converted to DNG. If that is not correct, then Adobe has fallen way short on the promise of DNG.

Sorry, Bob - you're right, it wouldn't matter what version if the DNG workaround is used. There seems to be a lot of confusion about camera support, ACR versioning, and your post, taken by itself, was a little confusing to me. I don't think it's a great idea to lead the OP down the twisty DNG path without knowing what model camera he or she is using. Maybe I'm wrong.https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=1086079&p​ostcount=6



  
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Jan 15, 2006 10:04 as a reply to  @ garbidz's post |  #12

garbidz wrote:
It might be that I am a bit stupid?

I don't know, but it's probably me that's stupid!



  
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Jan 15, 2006 16:59 as a reply to  @ jfrancho's post |  #13

jfrancho wrote:
Sorry, Bob - you're right, it wouldn't matter what version if the DNG workaround is used. There seems to be a lot of confusion about camera support, ACR versioning, and your post, taken by itself, was a little confusing to me. I don't think it's a great idea to lead the OP down the twisty DNG path without knowing what model camera he or she is using. Maybe I'm wrong.https://photography-on-the.net …php?p=1086079&p​ostcount=6

Dear Jeff,
I was pretty sparing of words in the message to which you referred, but the info at the Adobe Web site showed that those two cameras were already in the list prior to v 3.3 (as black entries) and other, newer cameras were listed in red as "newly supported" with v 3.3. What I have never figured out is what other releases of ACR exist that I don't know about. There seems to be a version 3.1 floating around that I have never actually seen.

Actually the DNG route, if it is working as well as I think, is a real simple batch operation that grabs every RAW file in a specified folder and does its thing with no pain and no fuss. The thing that you would not realize is that the ACR v2.4 reads DNG files. That's what makes this whole thing slick, but how would you know that unless someone tells you about it.

It sure is not intuitive.


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