Colour shift when using CS6 vs DPP.

In ACR, what camera profile are you set to? You find this in the Camera Calibration tab.

So as not to let that shadowy line confuse things here's the actual screen shot of each, CS 4 followed by CS 6.

Calibration is Adobe Standard.

cicopo wrote in post #15729648
Calibration is Adobe Standard.

Well, you might play with those settings. DPP uses the Canon "internal" profiles (based on your in-camera Picture Style as well as White Balance settings). Adobe has had to develop profiles independently. Some folks seem to have issues with a particular profile and are happy with another one, you might want to check.

Something else to consider it that by default DPP does not use a custom monitor calibration, so it will typically display using the system "default" monitor profile.

Adobe, on the other hand, will use a custom calibration if one has been "set" by doing monitor calibration. You said that you haven't calibrated your monitor, so the question is as to whether PS has been "thrown off" in its monitor profile. I don't know, but it's something to consider...in fact doing a monitor calibration could sort this out. Another approach could be to get into your system display properties and trying a profile such as "sRGB" (the generic profile) and seeing if that turns things around.

Actually I do try out the different Camera profiles in ACR plus I've tried setting the monitor to Adobe RGB & Srgb to compare the look but none of that "should" (I hope but seem to be wrong about) let the 2 versions of CS open the very same image so differently. It doesn't matter whether it's a file that was shot as a jpg or one converted from a RAW.

cicopo wrote in post #15729862
Actually I do try out the different Camera profiles in ACR plus I've tried setting the monitor to Adobe RGB & Srgb to compare the look but none of that "should" (I hope but seem to be wrong about) let the 2 versions of CS open the very same image so differently. It doesn't matter whether it's a file that was shot as a jpg or one converted from a RAW.

Well, I agree it's "odd". I don't have any more suggestions at this point...one thing you could do is upload a Raw file that shows this problem clearly. I'd suggest you use YouSendIt.com, a "hassle-free" host site. You can enter your email address as the "Recipient", upload the file, and they will quickly email you a notification with a link that you can copy and paste here. That way folks here can check it out!

My original problem related to RAW conversions but the problem I have now that I've solved that is the very different color cast CS 6 gives to every image opened into the work area. I've spent the last hour trying to find something setting wise that might explain it but so far nothing has changed. I just opened this untouched jpg shot 2 or 3 years ago with my G9 & get the very same result.

In CS6 go to View/Proof Setup and see what is checked. If Custom is checked, click on it, and see what the Device to Simulate shows. Grasping.

Hmmmm ... the plot thickens Something is messed up with your setup. Your CS4 results look fine, but the CS6 ones have a green cast, appearing like a color profile error.

A couple of questions:

1. When you take a RAW file and convert it into an sRGB jpeg using ACR 7.x (ACR version for CS6), then open the jpeg in CS4 or CS6 do you:
a) Get any profile mismatch errors for either CS4 or CS6 (you checked the checkboxes earlier )?
b) Get the green color cast with CS6 but not with CS4?

For this exercise don't convert one jpeg using ACR v5.x for CS4 and a separate one using ACR v7.x for CS6. Just make the one jpeg using the latest version of ACR.
- If you get a green cast with both CS4 and CS6 then the issue is likely with how ACR is set up. Go back and try the exercise with the same RAW file converted to jpeg using ACR 5.x and see how that single file opens in both CS4 and CS5.
- Also (just thought of this) if the color cast is only with jpegs created by one version of ACR then check the "HSL/Greyscale (all three tabs)", "Split Toning" and "Camera Calibration Tabs" to make sure all of the color sliders are zeroed out. It would be fantastic if the issue is simply a color slider that got bumped.
- If you only get a green cast with CS6 no matter which version of ACR is used for the conversion, then there is probably an issue with how CS6 is set up.
- If you get a profile mismatch opening the jpeg in one program but not the other (with both having the warnings turned on) then the working space for the two programs (CS4 and CS6) is not the same.

2. If you don't see the green color cast with a freshly created jpeg (from ACR), do you only see it after saving from CS6 then re-opening the image? If that's the case then you may somehow be "Assigning " a profile when you re-save the jpeg, which isn't something you want to do.


Although I highly recommend getting a puck to properly calibrate your monitor, I can't see how the issue you are having has anything to do with your monitor calibration. I also find it hard to believe that it's a CS6 installation issue. There is at least one feature (converting to B&W in ACR 7.x) that gives totally weird results when the created jpeg is opened in PS ... so it's entirely possible that using one of the less common features in ACR could show a bug. For just a simple straight forward conversion of a RAW file to jpeg in ACR 7.x, just using the Basic tab there are zero issues that I'm aware of.

Bob, I believe the OP said that the problem shows up when opening either a jpeg or a Raw (converted in ACR), in other words, opening an image in the CS6 editor.

But, it's all still a mystery...

tonylong wrote in post #15730630
Bob, I believe the OP said that the problem shows up when opening either a jpeg or a Raw (converted in ACR), in other words, opening an image in the CS6 editor.

But, it's all still a mystery...

I kind of read that into it too, but it wasn't clear. Too many different images, too much of a shotgun approach for narrowing down to where the problem is. Something is bizarre here so to troubleshoot I always like to dial back to the very beginning and start fresh. Sometimes after you've been banging your head on a wall trying to solve a problem it can get confusing as to what you actually did and didn't do (been there numerous times).

I really think there may be an "holy cow I didn't see that messed up setting" moment coming. I can feel the OP's pain and really hope we can help him out.

Bob_A wrote in post #15730719
I kind of read that into it too, but it wasn't clear. Something is bizarre here so to troubleshoot I always like to dial back to the very beginning. I also find that most people don't troubleshoot in an organized fashion and sometimes there are some big "gaps" in the information provided to us. I really think there may be an "holy cow I didn't see that setting" moment coming

Yeah, something like that came up earlier...

'Course because we aren't sitting down and doing the troubleshooting, well, what do we know? ?

Somebody suggested looking at softproofing earlier. I think that would be a very good place to start looking. The two screen grabs of the car just have that softproofing look about them. Softproofing was something I never really got my head around when using CS3, the prints were usually "close enough". Now I'm using CS5 but thanks to LR I have never tried it with that version either. I just use LR for all of my softproofing and in the Develop module you have the tick box in the bottom toolbar as well as the additional tools under the histogram, and still sometimes I will start to work on an image without noticing that I have it switched on.

Alan

Thanks for everyone's help on this I do appreciate it and I'll re try the things suggested above tonight.

The problem DOESN'T seem to have anything to do with how a RAW was converted but I'll do as suggested. The T-28 sample was converted from the CR2 to a jpg in DPP and the same jpg is in the 2 screen grabs exactly as seen when I open that file in each version of CS.

The photo of the Corvette is an in camera produced jpg from my G9 while doing the insurance appraisal for that car. The owner was a new customer & I had done a lot of work to get the car back on the road after a very long storage period due to poor service from the garage he used to use. I printed that photo for him as a Thanks for his business and it printed out really nicely at 13 X 19.

So far the problem is with any image (jpg) I open in CS6, and it doesn't seem to matter what camera was used or how the jpg was created but I'll verify that tonight too by opening files from several event sets over the years.

Larry, the snowy Great White North. (having a snow storm today).

We've been getting dumped on here in Edmonton too Larry. It's been a long winter.

The reason I suggested to go back to ACR is that you'll get jpegs to test with that will be guaranteed to have the profile embedded. Follow the workflow 100% fresh and 100% ACR -> PS to find exactly where the issue is.