Monochrome in camera Yes or No?

airfrogusmc wrote in post #15742716
Or shoot with one of these. A Leica M Monochrom. Its a lot better than any conversions.

I love black and white and 80 percent of my photos eventually get converted to it HOWEVER I don't have that much money for a Leica Monochrome.. speaking of Leica though I really hope the M8 comes to like 1500 ish because id love to have one.

BigAl007 wrote in post #15743237
Leica M Monochrome and a digital enlarger so that I can expose onto proper B&W photo paper. Actually it would be nice to have a proper monochrome DSLR option, to shoot things that the M system is not so good at, after all they do not have any super telephoto lenses, and a 500-600 mm lens would be great for me.

Alan

Thank Gawd. Its not one size fits all camera like most DSLRs are trying to be.Theres not a better street of candid camera period. And they have that amazing Leicas M glass available. My 35 lux FLE is sharprer at the corners that the 35L is in the center.

Leica M Monochrome and a digital enlarger so that I can expose onto proper B&W photo paper.

what do you mean a digital enlarger? how does that work if the monochrome is digital I thought an enlarger was for film?

Adamrhh wrote in post #15750684
what do you mean a digital enlarger? how does that work if the monochrome is digital I thought an enlarger was for film?

No: enlargers are for printing on photo-sensitive paper. A digital enlarger is basically an enlarger that has an LCD installed where the film holder would normally be found.

I always use the "in camera" method for b&w. The only thing I control is the type of film I load up

krb wrote in post #15750717
No: enlargers are for printing on photo-sensitive paper. A digital enlarger is basically an enlarger that has an LCD installed where the film holder would normally be found.

can you link me to one?

Vendee wrote in post #15750723
I always use the "in camera" method for b&w. The only thing I control is the type of film I load up

...Good one.

I would say that if you want to shoot Raw and "play" with monochrome, use DPP to switch around your Picture Style setting, but Lightroom/ACR will give plenty of room to play with as you get accustomed to "tweaking" your Raw exposures.

As has been said, a Raw capture does not "do monochrome" -- it captures discreet R, G and B "sensels". But DPP can convert those into your in-camera monochrome Picture Style settings, so like I said, I'd use that as your "reference point">

Adamrhh wrote in post #15751931
can you link me to one?

http://de-vere.com/products.htm

Adamrhh wrote in post #15751931
can you link me to one?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=d​igital+enlarger

:p

Vendee wrote in post #15750723
I always use the "in camera" method for b&w. The only thing I control is the type of film I load up

Yea, but you have a fancy B&W raw sensor. We are stuck with a bazaar array of colored filters in front of ours.

I sometimes shoot with my 5D in B & W mode. I'm shooting in Raw, but if I want I can take a look on the LCD to get an idea of how the composition looks without colour. I do a conversion later.

I was disappointed yesterday after spending all morning shooting mostly in Monochrome (5DMkII, RAW +JPEG) and discovering that the RAW images were B&W. i thought the jpegs would be an in-camera conversion, but the RAW files would be color. At least in the Canon Professional software the RAW files appear B&W. I can only open my RAW files with this software since my Photoshop version (CS3, i believe) does not read the CR2 files. Someone mentioned that the RAW files appear B& W in DPP only. Is this true? Is there a way to render those images in color in DPP?
Thanks

Apneamd wrote in post #16142673
I was disappointed yesterday after spending all morning shooting mostly in Monochrome (5DMkII, RAW +JPEG) and discovering that the RAW images were B&W. i thought the jpegs would be an in-camera conversion, but the RAW files would be color. At least in the Canon Professional software the RAW files appear B&W. I can only open my RAW files with this software since my Photoshop version (CS3, i believe) does not read the CR2 files. Someone mentioned that the RAW files appear B& W in DPP only. Is this true? Is there a way to render those images in color in DPP?
Thanks

Monochrome is just a Picture Style, so you should be able to just change it to one of the others (Standard, Neutral, etc.).

DPP will show the RAW in Monochrome if that was the Picture Style, as unlike any other RAW processor DPP is able to read all of the in camera settings, and apply them so that by default you get an identically processed result as you would from the in camera JPEG processing. If you wish to see the image in colour then as HughWill says change the picture style to one of the "colour" styles.

Alan