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Mar 24, 2013 08:12 |  #1

Okay im looking between the 24-105 or the 70-200 2.8 II is. right now the only lens i really use is the 50 1.4. I would like a 70-200 because it is such a great portrait lens and thats the field i am trying to get into, but at the same time i sometimes struggle shooting JUST a 50mm everyday, with it being either too long or short depending where i am. Like the other day i was shooting inside this small venue and i couldn't move back as far as i would like to to frame the subject. So the 24-105 will do great in that aspect

anyways, which lens do you suggest i should get first?
i already have the money to get the 24-105 or save up for a little bit longer for the 70-200?
As of now im not looking at the 24-70 II 2.8 because i know canon is doing testing on an IS version ( i think the standard zoom is going to be like the 70-200 with the f2.8 & f4 with or without IS)


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Mar 24, 2013 11:15 |  #2

Spend the most money on whichever lens you will use most often. Then settle for something inexpensive for other focal lengths you might use but not as often. So maybe get the 70-200mm and then add a used 28mm f1.8 or a Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 to cover your wider needs.

I recently sold off my Sigma 70-200mm because I rarely used it. So far I haven't bothered to replace it yet. The 24-105mm stays on my camera most of the time, so I feel I made a good investment there.


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Mar 24, 2013 11:28 |  #3

You decision should be greatly influenced by the size of sensor...do you have APS-C or FF body?


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Mar 24, 2013 18:40 |  #4
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Wilt wrote in post #15749710 (external link)
You decision should be greatly influenced by the size of sensor...do you have APS-C or FF body?

For me, the sensor is irrelevant. I use my 70-200 2.8 on the 60D and 5D. I have no desire for a 24-105 for either body. My 28-135 is 95% of the 24-105. If at some point I need better glass than the 28-135, there are much better options than the 24-105. For instance: 28 2.8, 35 2, 50 1.8 & 85 1.8. None of them have zoom or IS. All of them have less distortion than the 24-105. All of them are faster than the 24-105. All of them together cost me less than a used 24-105. As far as the sensor goes, I think the 85 1.8 is a bit long on APS-c, and the 35 2 is just weird on FF.


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Mar 24, 2013 18:51 |  #5

TSchrief wrote in post #15750979 (external link)
For me, the sensor is irrelevant. I use my 70-200 2.8 on the 60D and 5D. I have no desire for a 24-105 for either body. My 28-135 is 95% of the 24-105. If at some point I need better glass than the 28-135, there are much better options than the 24-105. For instance: 28 2.8, 35 2, 50 1.8 & 85 1.8. None of them have zoom or IS. All of them have less distortion than the 24-105. All of them are faster than the 24-105. All of them together cost me less than a used 24-105. As far as the sensor goes, I think the 85 1.8 is a bit long on APS-c, and the 35 2 is just weird on FF.

The sensor is not 'irrelevant'!...if you want Wide Angle on APS-C, you might need 15-65mm range to equate to the Angle of View seen by 24-105mm lens on FF format camera!

However, given the fact that you have both APS-C and FF is an important consideration, so that you find a suitable range of FL that is useful on each camera on its own merits. Having 24-70mm makes for a nice 'portraiture' FL range on the APS-C suitable for full length thru head and shoulders portrait, and it makes for a nice 'general purpose WA-to-short tele on FF.


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Mar 24, 2013 19:09 |  #6
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As stated, I was referring to the way I use my stuff. I don't have a use for the 24-105, in either format. I have what I consider the best UWA zoom Canon makes, the 10-22, and the best mid-range APS-c zoom Canon makes (as long as you can live w/o f/2.8) , the 15-85. The 28-135 is very good, good enough for me anyway, to cover that same range on FF. Having the 24-105 would net me nothing but a lighter wallet, and one stop of light at the long end. To me, that is not worth the $700 that lens is going for used.


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Mar 24, 2013 21:17 as a reply to  @ TSchrief's post |  #7

I own both and use a 60d, The 70-200 2.8 is II is incredable, expensive, to long on the short end at times, and heavy but worth it. The 24-105 is good, it is light, a usable range and I will probibly be selling mine to fund the 24-70 2.8 II or a short fast prime. What can I say after the 70-200 2.8 IS II good leaves me wanting incredable not good.




  
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Mar 24, 2013 21:43 |  #8

tempest68 wrote in post #15749665 (external link)
Spend the most money on whichever lens you will use most often. Then settle for something inexpensive for other focal lengths you might use but not as often.

bw!
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