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Mar 29, 2013 15:11 |  #1

I'm looking to buy an ND filter for use with my 6D. I was out testing today on a bright afternoon and noticed that with my 50mm f1.4, I hit my max shutter speed (1/4000) at f.2.8, I believe.

I'd like to get a filter that will allow my to go wide open with that lens (1.4). How much do I need and what do the numbers next to the filters mean?

For instance, looking on Amazon I see something like - "Neutral Density 0.6 filter". Does 0.6 = 6 stops? I'm confused.

Any help would be appreciated.


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Mar 29, 2013 15:16 |  #2

0.3 = 1 stop = ND2
0.6 = 2 stops = ND4
0.9 = 3 stops = ND8

There's a good chart here: http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Neutral_density​_filter (external link)

Look for Marumi, Hoya and B+W if you're going for a screw-in filter solution; and, Cokin or Lee if you're looking for a "panel" filter solution.


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Mar 29, 2013 15:29 as a reply to  @ Snydremark's post |  #3

Thanks for that link, that's exactly what I am looking for. I'm wondering if a 3-stop filter would be enough, or if I should just go for more?


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Mar 29, 2013 15:42 |  #4

Do you care if your shutter speed remains high? If not, I'd start with a 3-stop. I find that to be a good balance for general use (portraiture, narrow aperture longer exposures). Under the same lighting conditions you had, a 3-stop would let you shoot wide open at 1/2000.


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Mar 29, 2013 15:57 as a reply to  @ Nightdiver13's post |  #5

I'm not too concerned about high shutter speed. I'm more interested in shallow DOF portraits in bright days. I think a 3-stop is a good start and I can go bigger from there if I find I need to slow down my shutter even more.


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Mar 29, 2013 15:58 |  #6

3 stop is a good starting point, for sure.


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Mar 29, 2013 16:03 |  #7

Steve, I hope you don't mind if I tag along. I'm also looking to get an ND filter. Will a 3 or 4 stop filter cause AF problem? (for example, shooting at noon on a sunny day). Just like OP, I'd like to use this filter so I can shoot at larger aperture (shallow DOF) and my max shutter is 1/4000.

Is this (external link)good?




  
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Mar 29, 2013 16:11 |  #8

I personally don't have issues with AF until 6-stops. But that is in good strong light and not trying to track motion. That Hoya would be fine, and Marumi makes nice ones as well which are less expensive. No 4-stop though. Only 3-stop.


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Mar 29, 2013 16:13 |  #9

I bought a variable density filter and can adjust for conditions and desired effect.


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Mar 29, 2013 16:18 |  #10

This is not cheap, but proportionally costly to your nice Lens. Should give good flexibility to value for money.

http://singh-ray.com/varinduo.html (external link)




  
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Mar 29, 2013 16:19 |  #11

Thanks Neil. That's good to know. Southern California sun can be blinding sometimes. I'm often shooting around 2-3 pm in bright daylight. I need some filter to block the light.

I heard variable density ND on a UWA lens might cause an X mark on the picture. Since I'm going to use this 77mm filter with my 11-16mm lens (as well as other lenses + step up/down ring), I'm afraid var ND isn't a good choice. Oh... that Singh Ray filters... waaay out of my budget. That would be something nice to have if I won CA lottery.




  
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Mar 30, 2013 08:44 |  #12

morph2_7 wrote in post #15770076 (external link)
I heard variable density ND on a UWA lens might cause an X mark on the picture.

You heard correct. One of the reasons I never use mine. It's also impossible to accurately know just how dense it is set. Which makes exposure calculations impossible - you need to try it and see.


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