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Apr 01, 2013 16:20 |  #1

I posted this in the lens forum as well, but wanted to post it here to get a more wedding-oriented view...if that's not OK I will delete it.

Right now I am deliberating between the 70-200 f4L IS and the Sigma 85 1.4

I currently shoot with a 40D, my main lens is the Sigma 17-50 2.8...great lens. I also own a 50 1.8, sigma 70-300 f4-5.6, and the 18-55 kit lens.

I have started to do some paid photography, I did a wedding, an engagement shoot, senior pictures, and family portraits last year. I've got at least two weddings that I am for sure shooting this summer, possibly three.

My issue is what new lens to get. I need something longer than my 17-50 that is good quality. Not only is the sigma 70-300 not that great, but the autofocus also occassionaly makes a loud screeching sound...not good for weddings!!! I rented a 70-200 F4L IS for the wedding last year, and absolutely loved it. It is an incredibly sharp lens. It worked great for this wedding, as it was outdoors in good light in the early afternoon. One of the upcoming weddings is indoors. I am concerned as to whether the F4L IS is going to be fast enough. I realize that F4 is not that fast for indoors work, but at the same time, there's not much subject movement indoors at a wedding, so the IS might be enough.

My other option is the Sigma 85 1.4. I have rented the Canon 85 1.2 and was blown away...however there is just no way that it is in my budget. The 85 is obviously much faster for indoor work, but is much less versatile than the 70-200.

If I get the 70-200, I will again rent the 85 1.2, and if I buy the 85 1.4, I can rent the 70-200 2.8L IS. Either way I will be covered concerning the wedding, but the question I am wondering is which of these two should I buy first!

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Apr 01, 2013 18:54 |  #2

davidmtml wrote in post #15779860 (external link)
I currently shoot with a 40D

My first question would be whether you have a backup body?

As for lenses I'd continue renting the 70-200 2.8L IS MKII until you can afford to buy it.


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Apr 01, 2013 19:00 |  #3

I've had the 70-200 f/2.8 IS for 6+ years now and love it. I do a fair amount of wedding, social event and other work, but I realize as a purchase it may be out of your range at this time. The 70-2-- f/4 IS as you've discovered is also a wonderful lens.

As Peter suggested, a backup body is a necessity if you don't already have one. A flash will be needed too for those dark receptions when there is either no light, or the quality of the light requires the fill that only flash can provide. The flash will also enable you to achieve a lot of creative effects.


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Apr 01, 2013 19:05 |  #4

Why not spend your money on another body and just rent the lenses until you can afford them?


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Apr 01, 2013 19:06 |  #5

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #15780454 (external link)
My first question would be whether you have a backup body?

As for lenses I'd continue renting the 70-200 2.8L IS MKII until you can afford to buy it.

Good advice!

Though on a crop sensor body the 70-200 is quite long. A friend of mine who does weddings has totally fallen in love with the new 24-70 2.8L Mk2...maybe renting one of those might be a good bet for one wedding at least. But secure that backup body as well...all the best glass in the world is useless if it doesn't have a camera behind it!


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Apr 01, 2013 19:17 |  #6

Sorry guys, forgot to mention that! I do have a 350D for a back up body.

I also have 2x yn560ii, one soon-to-be 568EX, and a YN467 for flashes.

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Apr 01, 2013 19:23 |  #7

Ricardo222 wrote in post #15780494 (external link)
Good advice!

Though on a crop sensor body the 70-200 is quite long.

They already have a 17-50 2.8 and a 50 1.8 so the bottom end already has coverage.

For what it it worth I regularly use my 70-200 with a 1.4X extender on a 60D at weddings. And when it isn't on the 60D that setup is on one of the 5D MKIII's. Having a longer reach can be a massive bonus. My 70-200 on its own with the 60D gets used a lot too.

Edit (addition): Depending on your shooting style I'd consider a buying or renting a wide aperture 24 or 35 as well.


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Apr 01, 2013 19:26 |  #8

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #15780553 (external link)
They already have a 17-50 2.8 and a 50 1.8 so the bottom end already has coverage.

For what it it worth I regularly use my 70-200 with a 1.4X extender on a 60D at weddings. And when it isn't on the 60D that setup is on one of the 5D MKIII's. Having a longer reach can be a massive bonus. My 70-200 on its own with the 60D gets used a lot too.

Do you have the 70-200 F4 or F2.8??




  
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Apr 01, 2013 19:28 |  #9

davidmtml wrote in post #15780568 (external link)
Do you have the 70-200 F4 or F2.8??

F2.8 MKII IS. Awesome lens. Why limit yourself by buying the F4 if you can rent the F2.8?


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Apr 01, 2013 19:33 |  #10

memoriesoftomorrow wrote in post #15780577 (external link)
F2.8 MKII IS. Awesome lens. Why limit yourself by buying the F4 if you can rent the F2.8?

Because I do a lot more photography than just these two weddings...and I need a longer focal length lens for that as well!




  
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Apr 01, 2013 19:44 |  #11

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Because I do a lot more photography than just these two weddings...and I need a longer focal length lens for that as well!

If you are going to take on weddings and want to shoot at that focal length you may find yourself struggling in some circumstances with F4. When you have to shoot in a dark venue where no flash is allowed and you have to remain a certain distance from the couple you'll need to be able to manage. This is why most wedding photographers end up with one of the 135L or the 70-200 F2.8 IS (or similar lenses) in their kit bag.

You know your shooting style and what focal lengths you use. But if you intend on taking on more and more weddings I'd personally not take the risk of being caught out on a wedding day.


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Apr 01, 2013 19:52 |  #12

I hate F4 lenses for weddings. Sooo limiting


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Apr 01, 2013 20:21 |  #13

Chris wrote in post #15780677 (external link)
I hate F4 lenses for weddings. Sooo limiting

That depends on the particular lens, as well as the body.


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Apr 01, 2013 21:08 |  #14

davidmtml wrote in post #15779860 (external link)
One of the upcoming weddings is indoors. I am concerned as to whether the F4L IS is going to be fast enough.

For churches I typically shoot in, it's not fast enough.

I would absolutely rent the 70-200 f2.8 IS.




  
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Apr 01, 2013 21:24 as a reply to  @ nicksan's post |  #15

First off,, main body is a 40d,,, F/4 is not gonna be fast enough for most churches I shoot in but the 85 on a crop might be long enough plus you can shoot at F/2.0.,,, that said, you need a better body and more glass,,, you should consider several things and scout well so you don't get in trouble,, churches present unique problems,,, good equipment is essential


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