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Apr 09, 2013 09:30 |  #316

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Apr 09, 2013 09:45 |  #317

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Apr 09, 2013 09:48 |  #318

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Creativity > Skill > Gear

So true. If really talented and skilled, you can take good photos with a phone camera, better than a beginner with the best equipment.




  
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Apr 09, 2013 11:38 |  #319

"I wish I had an answer to that because I'm tired of answering that question."
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Apr 09, 2013 11:51 as a reply to  @ juanpafer's post |  #320

This might help and it talks about how to use the frame to help develop a style and a way of seeing and about try to make your work more than just the object and gets to the vision thing. Just took the quote to an entirely new level.
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Apr 09, 2013 11:55 |  #321

Not to point out the obvious, but better gear will produce better results in the hands of a capable person.

When you quote that, please spell my name correctly. Thanks.


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Apr 09, 2013 12:03 |  #322

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #15808100 (external link)
Not to point out the obvious, but better gear will produce better results in the hands of a capable person.

When you quote that, please spell my name correctly. Thanks.

In some cases technically better but thats the easy part and always has been. And as sjones pointed out its not always the technically perfect photo thats important.




  
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Apr 09, 2013 12:05 |  #323

Fair enough, I suppose it's an all-things-equal paradigm.


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Apr 09, 2013 12:10 |  #324

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #15808147 (external link)
Fair enough, I suppose it's an all-things-equal paradigm.

I think that gear and skill go hand in hand its the ability to see and develop a vision that is the real important challenge Any one can learn the technique and anyone with enough money can buy the gear but not everyone can see or ever develops their own way of seeing and capturing the world and its those that can that are special and they get into the galleries and they work with the right clients.




  
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Apr 09, 2013 12:12 |  #325

I was shooting a bike race a few years ago, and happened to strike up a conversation with the father of one of the racers. He was taking photos of his son with some small camera, I don't even know if it had detachable lenses. He said that he always liked taking photos and was in fact a photographer for the military when he toured in 'Nam. I asked to see what he shot ....

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Whoa. Excellent composition and perfectly framed. Impressive. :D


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Apr 09, 2013 12:14 |  #326

airfrogusmc wrote in post #15808163 (external link)
I think that gear and skill go hand in hand its the ability to see and develop a vision that is the real important challenge Any one can learn the technique and anyone with enough money can buy the gear but not everyone can see or ever develops their own way of seeing and capturing the world and its those that can that are special and they get into the galleries and they work with the right clients.

I'm not arguing that. A very talented photographer should in theory produce better work with better gear. Nothing less, nothing more.

Nothing will, however, help my mom's side of the family regarding composition.:D


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Apr 09, 2013 12:18 |  #327

gear is almost as important as skill.

When was the last time you saw a pro photog shoot an event with a point and shoot? Uncle bob can do better with his 5D3 + L glass in green box mode.


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Apr 09, 2013 12:19 |  #328

nphsbuckeye wrote in post #15808181 (external link)
I'm not arguing that. A very talented photographer should in theory produce better work with better gear. Nothing less, nothing more.

Nothing will, however, help my mom's side of the family regarding composition.:D

Yep. Like I said earlier, no amount of money spent on equipment will keep my technically perfect shots from being boring...


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Apr 09, 2013 12:21 |  #329

Charlie wrote in post #15808193 (external link)
gear is almost as important as skill.

When was the last time you saw a pro photog shoot an event with a point and shoot? Uncle bob can do better with his 5D3 + L glass in green box mode.

It really depends on your definition of "better". The pro with his POS P&S will likely have more interesting and attention-grabbing shots than Uncle Bob, even if Uncle Bob's are sharper and better exposed.


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Apr 09, 2013 12:46 |  #330

Charlie wrote in post #15808193 (external link)
When was the last time you saw a pro photog shoot an event with a point and shoot? Uncle bob can do better with his 5D3 + L glass in green box mode.

Actually, I've seen a few sports photogs (including a previous mentor of mine) carry one around for non-action shots. I remember one guy used a Fuji X100 exclusively for travel shots, sightseeing with the team, etc. claiming the Fuji was obviously much lighter and a lot less intrusive. His shots turned out excellent, which was no surprise.


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