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Not sure which wide-angle to get :(

 
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Apr 04, 2013 10:11 |  #1

So far I only have the t3i kit lens and the Tamron 70-300 VC (which I like so much).

I'm looking to buy a wide angle lens within this month but I'm not sure which one to get. Canon's L lenses are expensive but not out of reach and I don't know if they're really worth the price since Tamron and Sigma make great lenses too..

I'm just looking for a good -keep forever- wide angle lens but I don't thik I'd want to spend more than $1000-$1500.

I'm also not sure about what to buy.. Could someone please show me some popular options? I'll mainly use it for landscapes and general photography.


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Apr 04, 2013 10:16 |  #2

Sigma 10-20mm or Tokina 11-16mm :)

L lenses won't get you any wider than you currently are with your kits lens really so not really worth it IMO of course.


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Apr 04, 2013 10:16 |  #3

the Canon 10-22mm gets my vote


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Apr 04, 2013 10:20 |  #4

nigpd wrote in post #15789960 (external link)
the Canon 10-22mm gets my vote

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Apr 04, 2013 10:37 |  #5

LeeRatters: Thanks for the recommendations.. Currently reading about them.

nigpd & ericm678: Thank you, but that's an EF-S lens.. I'm trying to build a lens collection to be able to use with a future full frame.. (Expecting the 5dMKIII).


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Apr 04, 2013 10:39 |  #6

There is no L lens that's particularly wide on your crop sensor camera. Aside from a fisheye with strong distortions, the widest L prime available is the $2000+ 14/2.8L II and that's only moderately wide when used on a crop camera. The widest zoom available is 16-35/2.8 II, also only moderately wide on a crop camera (only 2mm wider than your kit lens). Keep in mind, by definition all L lenses must be designed to work on all EOS cameas, including full frame cameras, and so are not optimized for use on a crop camera and can't take advantage of significant cost savings possible with lenses designed for use only on the smaller format. Many L lenses are excellent... but a lot of non-L are also very good, can be even better optimized for the smaller format cameras.

You have a lot of very good lenses to choose among...

- Canon EF-S 10-22mm (best all around, and one of the most expensive)
- Tokina 12-24/4 (not quite as good or wide as the Canon, but a lot cheaper... the latest "Mark II" version is a little more flare resistant)
- Tokina 11-16/2.8 (a little sharper than the Toki 12-24, but much more prone to flare & a very narrow range of focal lengths is the trade-off to get f2.8, which may not be necessary for most folks)
- Sigma 8-16 (the widest available aside from fisheyes, strong distortions, rather expensive)
- Sigma 10-20 (two versions: the variable aperture is one of the cheapest, the f3.5 is rather pricey)
- Sigma 12-24 (actually a full frame lens which makes it quite expensive to use on a crop camera, heavy distortions)
- Tamron 10-24 (one of the cheaper, widest range of focal lengths, a bit soft at the 24mm end)
- Rokinon/Samyang 14/2.8 (also sells under Bower, Vivitar, ProOptic and some other brand names... not terribly wide, it's a full frame lens, but affordable because it's strictly manual focus and manual aperture control, so slower to shoot with)

There are some others, as well as some discontinued models, but the above is a pretty good selection.

I have had the Toki 12-24/4 for several years and it's a good lens. I rank it second only to the Canon 10-22mm, which I just bought used and am starting to use and compare with the 12-24.

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Apr 04, 2013 11:16 as a reply to  @ amfoto1's post |  #7

I would say the 10-22 which I own, or the 15-85. The 10-22 was better than the 17-40, hands down. I tried the 17-40 and got rid of it. Its probably better with a different sensor, but I wasn't impressed with it at all. The 10-22 on the other hand is one very amazing lens, and for the money its worth every penny.
Those are the only 2 I have experience with, although I have read the Tamron 17-50 is also very good as well.
I also hear great things about that 15-85 with IS, except for a little zoom creep, which when it gets right down to it, doesn't affect image quality at all.
GL with your choice :)


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Apr 04, 2013 11:29 |  #8

Sens0r wrote in post #15789937 (external link)
So far I only have the t3i kit lens and the Tamron 70-300 VC (which I like so much).

I'm looking to buy a wide angle lens within this month but I'm not sure which one to get. Canon's L lenses are expensive but not out of reach and I don't know if they're really worth the price since Tamron and Sigma make great lenses too..

I'm just looking for a good -keep forever- wide angle lens but I don't thik I'd want to spend more than $1000-$1500.

I'm also not sure about what to buy.. Could someone please show me some popular options? I'll mainly use it for landscapes and general photography.

From your gear list, you already have the wide angle lens you need: the Canon 18-55mm image stabilizer lens. One of those lenses easily generated these images.

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The Canon 18-55mm image stabilizer lens has been proven over and over again as a very good performer in a pleasantly lightweight and compact package.

Save your money and use what you already own.



  
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Apr 04, 2013 12:05 |  #9

amfoto1 pretty much sums it up. Plenty of options available and a tough choice for what to get.

Disregarding budget, I'd suggest this:
If you plan to shoot a lot of landscape or architecture where the sun or heavy reflections might be in the frame, I'd get the Canon 10-22.
If you plan to do a lot of long exposure / night photography and maybe some astro shots, get the Tokina 11-16.

Both can do either but have their pros and cons. Don't stare blind on the f/2.8 of the 11-16 though, as the 10-22 is only 2/3 stop slower on it's widest setting.

The Sigma 10-20 (either version) gets a lot of love but I don't see all that much of an advantage to the previous two, apart from budget on the cheaper one.


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Apr 04, 2013 12:14 |  #10

amfoto1 wrote in post #15790035 (external link)
.... I have had the Toki 12-24/4 for several years and it's a good lens. I rank it second only to the Canon 10-22mm, which I just bought used and am starting to use and compare with the 12-24....

I have & use the Tokina 12-24 on my 50D and agree with amfoto1 that it is probably ranked second only to the Canon 10-22. I would prefer all my lenses to be Canon rather than 3rd party, but the Toki does such a good job as well as being built like a tank that it's hard for me to justify getting a 10-22 at the present. Another thing I particularly like about the Toki is the internal focusing.

The wide-angles that work well with Canon crop cameras are probably not suitable for full frame; likewise, any wide-angles that work best with full frame are probably not going to be the best solution for a crop.

Good luck with your search.


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Apr 04, 2013 14:58 |  #11

Sens0r wrote in post #15790029 (external link)
nigpd & ericm678: Thank you, but that's an EF-S lens.. I'm trying to build a lens collection to be able to use with a future full frame.. (Expecting the 5dMKIII).

Well you could have stated that in your opening post, then I wouldn't have wasted 12 seconds of my life replying :rolleyes:


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Apr 04, 2013 15:03 |  #12

Sens0r wrote in post #15790029 (external link)
LeeRatters: Thanks for the recommendations.. Currently reading about them.

nigpd & ericm678: Thank you, but that's an EF-S lens.. I'm trying to build a lens collection to be able to use with a future full frame.. (Expecting the 5dMKIII).

No EF Lens will be as wide as you want it. Believe me I've not slept thinking about it.
I've been using my kit lens for everything these days its actually a really good budget lens on a tripod.

People say that the Sigma 12-24 is quite good, because it works on both crop and FF.

on crop its an effective 19mm at the wide end, so not so far off. The Tokina is a really popular lens, but won't work on FF.




  
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Apr 04, 2013 15:11 |  #13

Alan pretty much covered it in the booklet above; but, I'd also throw in that unless you have the money sitting in your pocket and/or the camera in the mail, it's better to buy for what you have (crop body) vs what you *might* get one day. In which case, I heartily 3rd or even 4th the suggestion above on the 10-22; it really is a terrific lens and performs quite well.


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Apr 04, 2013 15:22 |  #14

As a former t3i owner; My vote would be to get a Tokina 11-16 or Canon 10-22; and when you sell your t3i for the 5dmk3; sell the UWA also. I got 90% of the value back from my 11-16 when I moved to a 6D (And I still miss the 11-16 today; even with my red ring'd 17-40 to replace).


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Apr 04, 2013 15:28 |  #15

Be aware of just how far away the horizon is when you're at 10mm. It's hard to get a great landscape shot from a wide angle ( 10-15mm ) unless you maximise the foreground which, isn't always easy. This is the reason my 10-20 stays in my bag.
Stepped own to F8 the 18-55 is very good, you'd be hard pressed to tell it apart from the 17-40L. I totally agree with Eric above, buy lens for the camera you have today rather than one you'll own down the line unless your purchase is imminent.
Have you looked through the viewfinder at 10mmm, it's VERY wide, perhaps wider than you appreciate. I read once "the wider the lens the more interesting things you need to fill the frame". For me, never a truer word was spoken. I see lots of wide angle shots, most of them I find boring as only half the shot is interesting :(


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