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Apr 06, 2013 22:19 |  #1

I recently upgraded to a 6D, and I'm well aware that CS5 doesn't support the version of Camera Raw required to open 6D RAW files. However, I do have Lightroom 4. The only time I ever use CS5 is for making panoramas and HDR's by selecting the images in Lightroom, right clicking, and going to Edit In CS5. I thought that by doing this I could use Lightroom to render the image and CS5 could then edit it, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

Am I out of luck for the workflow I described? Apologies if this has been asked before, I tried searching around but couldn't figure out how to word it properly.


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Apr 06, 2013 23:01 |  #2

Are you running Lightroom 4.4?


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Apr 06, 2013 23:25 |  #3

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Are you running Lightroom 4.4?

I Think 4.3. I've been putting off downloading the update on my slow internet. Does that fix it?


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Apr 06, 2013 23:42 |  #4

I had a camera raw update on my Adobe updater today. Hard telling how long its been there for Camera raw 7.


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Apr 06, 2013 23:47 |  #5

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I Think 4.3. I've been putting off downloading the update on my slow internet. Does that fix it?


You think? Can't you check?

Actually raw support for the Canon 6D was added in Lightroom 4.3 so if you really have that version it should work...but odds are that you don't have it.


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Apr 06, 2013 23:49 |  #6

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I had a camera raw update on my Adobe updater today. Hard telling how long its been there for Camera raw 7.

The Lightroom 4.4 and Adobe Camera Raw 7.4 updates were released on Tuesday, April 2, 2013.


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Apr 07, 2013 00:03 |  #7

I have Lightroom 4.3.

When I select a single image in Lightroom, right click, and go to Edit In Photoshop CS5, I am prompted to "Render Using Lightroom." I'm fine with that, that's what I want. My problem lies in when I select multiple images, right click, and either "Merge to Panorama" or "Merge to HDR Pro," I'm not given the "Render Using Lightroom" option (see attachment). I just get an error saying my Camera Raw plugin is out of date. There is no Camera Raw update in my update manager and when I look online I see that CS5 does not support Camera Raw 7+ which is required for 6D support.

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Apr 07, 2013 04:05 |  #8

What happens if you hit the open anyway button? I belive that you have to do that before you get to the let LR render the image part. Thats how I remember doing it when I was running LR4.0 with PSCS3 which were not at all compatible in ACR versions. Worst case you could always export full sized TIFF/PSD images from LR and then open them to HDR/Pano from PS.

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Apr 07, 2013 04:47 |  #9

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What happens if you hit the open anyway button? I belive that you have to do that before you get to the let LR render the image part. Thats how I remember doing it when I was running LR4.0 with PSCS3 which were not at all compatible in ACR versions. Worst case you could always export full sized TIFF/PSD images from LR and then open them to HDR/Pano from PS.

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As Alan says, that notice is merely notifying you that the images will not be opened in ACR, but will be transferred to PSCS5 as psd files with LR rendering. Since this is what you want anyways there should be no problem.


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Apr 07, 2013 08:23 |  #10

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As Alan says, that notice is merely notifying you that the images will not be opened in ACR, but will be transferred to PSCS5 as psd files with LR rendering. Since this is what you want anyways there should be no problem.

That's not what happens. CS5 opens but the files never open.

I downloaded the 4.4 update overnight and installed it. No change.


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Apr 07, 2013 08:39 |  #11

Export to Tiff, then bring them into photoshop for the merge.


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Apr 08, 2013 10:58 |  #12

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Export to Tiff, then bring them into photoshop for the merge.

^ This, or convert to DNG, which your version of ACR will be able to handle (albeit with a different rendering then LR4)

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Apr 08, 2013 12:25 |  #13

So I guess what I can take away from this is:

  • If I want to open a single image in CS5, I can use lightroom 4 to render it
  • If I want to open multiple images at once for an HDR or photomerge, I have to make them into .tiffs or .dng's first.


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Apr 08, 2013 12:42 |  #14

I have LR 4.4 and CS5. I had been getting that warning box and just clicking "open anyway". I had not really noticed any problems, but yesterday saw some fairly major conversion errors in the photo when opened in CS5. I got on the photoshop website and saw an explanation that CS5 can only use the raw converter up to 6.x. Not the new 7.x. This means it cannot fully see the lightroom changes to the files and sort of guess at them. The fix seems to be you can either save the files as a tif and then open in PS, or upgrade to CS6.


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Apr 09, 2013 01:58 |  #15

MTguy wrote in post #15803894 (external link)
I have LR 4.4 and CS5. I had been getting that warning box and just clicking "open anyway". I had not really noticed any problems, but yesterday saw some fairly major conversion errors in the photo when opened in CS5. I got on the photoshop website and saw an explanation that CS5 can only use the raw converter up to 6.x. Not the new 7.x. This means it cannot fully see the lightroom changes to the files and sort of guess at them. The fix seems to be you can either save the files as a tif and then open in PS, or upgrade to CS6.

The very last version of ACR 6 (not sure of the full version number not at my computer right now) avilable on the Adobe web site is aware of Process 2012 for the cameras it knows about. This is usally sufficient for bringing images into PS, it can even manage to open them as Smart Objects. If you open as an SO though you loose the P2012 tools from the interface, the P2012 conversion is there you just loose the ablity to make tose adjustments, comon tool between P2010/P2012 mostly work as normal. This is the good side.

Now the not so good. I often end up with artifacts along very high contrast edges. Also the CA/Fringing tools often seem to have problems carrying across, even though the tools seem to be the same. This can be a big issue for me with my aviation images, where very high contrast edges are comon, as is CA on my 20D even with a 100-400L. The new Highlight/Shadows recovery are also really useful in this situation. In these difficult situations I end up having to export as a .PSD file which will be fine and looks just like the image dose in LR. I understand that this is due to ACR being used to do the conversion that is imported, not LR.

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