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Nov 14, 2017 12:33 as a reply to  @ post 18496300 |  #15256

Convention?


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Nov 14, 2017 12:40 |  #15257

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Convention?

That's funny, I hit [QUOTE button] on Warrant and it's saying "Convention".

A Warrant is too specific a thing, too small.
I think a Convention would be a class of, or subordinate to these things but not the generality.




  
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Nov 14, 2017 12:46 |  #15258

It is not something as simple as a business / professional licence? Or maybe what we call Articles of Incorporation.


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Nov 14, 2017 13:06 as a reply to  @ Nogo's post |  #15259

Is a protocol subordinate to a convention? I think not. But don’t you need an Act to enable a convention?


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Nov 14, 2017 14:33 as a reply to  @ ECC233's post |  #15260

Above the law of the land is international law with constitutional law possible intermediate. UK has no written constitution, so that is eliminated.


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Nov 14, 2017 15:01 as a reply to  @ ECC233's post |  #15261

Or to put it another way. I give up and am going to bed .. I have to get the early morning train to Strasbourg tomorrow. Good luck overnight everyone.

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Nov 14, 2017 15:49 |  #15262

Nogo wrote in post #18496316 (external link)
It is not something as simple as a business / professional licence? Or maybe what we call Articles of Incorporation.

No, larger in scope..




  
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Nov 14, 2017 15:52 |  #15263

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Is a protocol subordinate to a convention? I think not. But don’t you need an Act to enable a convention?

Where did "protocol" come from?:-|

"But don’t you need an Act to enable a convention?"

A what, what's that you're referring to ? "Act" you wrote..??




  
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Nov 14, 2017 17:03 |  #15264

ECC233 wrote in post #18496402 (external link)
Above the law of the land is international law with constitutional law possible intermediate. UK has no written constitution, so that is eliminated.

Not "Up" from "Law of the land " in that way.... Up in the sense of formality and ultimate authority.
LotL is a bit of a jumble which comprises many sources, of which this is a major one, which could also actually trump or change the existing LotL (I think that's fair) in a particular area so it's higher in that sense. All rather complex to go into even if I could.

Inasmuch as the UK does have a written constitution, one of these parchment things is a key constituent. The thing's much more of an everyday phrase than "Tiger in your tank"!




  
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Nov 14, 2017 17:38 as a reply to  @ Chris.R's post |  #15265

Does the magna carta look like this? I have never seen it (if an original even exists). The UK could also include the billof rights and countless acts of parliament up to and including human rights.

And now I have a memory of visiting parliament as a kid and seeing all of these acts of parliament in scrolls like this


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Nov 14, 2017 18:09 |  #15266

You got there - it's an Act of Parliament. This one's from George III, around 1806. Part of the Defence of the Realm Act I think, which went on about who could be called up to join the army.

"A proposed new law is called a bill. Bills must be agreed by both Houses of Parliament and receive Royal Assent from the Queen before they can become Acts of Parliament which make our law."
US system is fairly similar - just a couple of vital differences!
US's three key documents were on parchment, by the way, not marijuana laden hemp paper..

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Nov 17, 2017 10:54 |  #15267

Apologies for the delay. Let's try this one. This is a relatively common object I think.


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Nov 17, 2017 10:56 |  #15268

Organic?


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Nov 17, 2017 11:42 |  #15269

Just on the offchance someone is itching to know:


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Uk was at war with "France and its allies"
"Napoleon also attempted economic warfare against Britain, especially in the Berlin Decree of 1806. It forbade the import of British goods into European countries allied with or dependent upon France, and installed the Continental System in Europe. All connections were to be cut, even the mail. British merchants smuggled in many goods and the Continental System was not a powerful weapon of economic war.[1] There was some damage to Britain, especially in 1808 and 1811, but its control of the oceans helped ameliorate the damage. Even more damage was done to the economies of France and its allies, which lost a useful trading partner.[2] Angry governments gained an incentive to ignore the Continental System, which led to the weakening of Napoleon's coalition.[3]"

Times change heh? Not a lot, though.



  
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Not organic


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