The super macro guessing game (5)

Just for your reference, here is what a Million Dollar plus property looks like in my area. https://www.zillow.com …-ms_rb/?fromHomePage=tr​ue
I found no listings in this range in my city. These are about twenty miles from me.

If only...
That's depressing!

I was a bit out, you get more for your money than I said - this one's about $1.15, and there are more below than I thought:
http://www.zoopla.co.u​k …fbd19#Rfrl5hErJ​SXl68fR.97

Chris.R wrote in post #18348634
Those grills - are they domestic appliances?

There's an oven company here "Stoves", but the freestanding combination thing is usually a "cooker". Regional variations in nomenclature, apply.

The domestic form of a grill is typically a barbeque grill, used outdoors only (if you don't want your name in the obituary column sooner than necessary). Very fancy homes may have some sort of grill as a kitchen appliance. We have what used to be the most common large cooking appliance, combining four burners at counter height (36"), an oven below that, and a broiler at the bottom, all gas. We call it a stove, the ordinary traditional term, but the word used in the trade seems to be "range."

Nogo wrote in post #18348649
My reference to your location was toward San Francisco proper. The average Mississippian could not afford to purchase a home in your city so they would need to live somewhere on the other side of the bay. In my area a really nice house purchased by a two professional income household would be around $250,000 to $300,000.

I live on the "other" side of the bay, and real-estate prices here are getting crazier. They're not quite as high as in SF, but even so, $300,000 would be low for a condo in a decent neighborhood.

That's familiar to us too, but with what we call a grill, at the top of the oven, or in a separate smaller oven above a larger one. Otherwise you have to pray to see your sausages .
Often, kitchens near London need the double ovens, one above the other, so the doors are short enough to get past when they're open. London housing stock, mostly pre-war, has tiny kitchens. Walls get removed.
"Range" is for the 36+" wide things you have to have if you hardly ever cook.
If you're really posh you have an "Aga", 4ft wide, cast iron, designed in the 20's by and for people stuck in the steam battleship age.

We'd better not get started on condo(m)s. I was being nice calling flats, "apartments"

All this talk about broilers

Broiling is basically just applying direct heat to cook, typically from above: http://www.thekitchn.c​om …cs-how-to-use-your-112585

Our gas oven has a broil setting, where the heat source comes from atop inside the oven versus from the bottom. I'll place things in the upper rack close to the gas flames to get a char. Typically used at 400 or 500 degrees.

I've had broil settings on electric stoves, too. Same thing. Heat from above, except they are electric heating elements instead of gas flames.

In one apartment I lived in, the supplied oven had a "broiler" below the main oven. It was a shallow pull out rack that was directly below the bottom gas flames. We could broil a fish or something inside a 3 inch (depth) pan or baking dish.

Now for broiler chickens - Chickens raised for meat were named so to distinguish them from egg laying chickens. Broilers and fryers are younger livestock or more tender breeds. Roasters are older or tougher breeds.

What type of chicken people like says a lot about them. Some guys/gals like legs, some like breasts. Some like them young and some like them old. I personally like thighs.

Nogo wrote in post #18348532
The other type of grill that is common is one like they use in a short order restaurant or Japanese steakhouse. Those grills are large metal surfaces where the whole thing is used to cook the food for several people at once.

Sorry, but I believe you are mistaken. That's a griddle, not a grill. Also not to be mistaken for a flattop grill.

Nathan wrote in post #18348812
Sorry, but I believe you are mistaken. That's a griddle, not a grill. Also not to be mistaken for a flattop grill.

It is becoming obvious there are regional differences even in the United States. If I remember right you are in the North East, possibly Boston. People in the Southeast consider New Englanders as different from us as Europeans if not even more so. Griddle may be the proper term, but most people I know (in the South) call it a grill. Of course if you just said something was cooked on the "grill" the average Southerner would expect the food to be cooked on an open fire grill such as described by OhLook.

Nogo wrote in post #18348822
Griddle may be the proper term, but most people I know (in the South) call it a grill.

If the cooking surface is continuous, I call it a griddle. On a griddle, one can cook griddle cakes. I've never been to the South or to New England. More than I needed to know about griddles

This is the only griddle I know, and I don't even like it :

There is nothing that separates two people like a common language.

There would be a good degree of agreement on "griddle", I think.

Communities seem to enjoy regional variations in "small", domestic matters. In Switzerland, different parts of the same valley have different ways of expressing such things. Perhaps it gives us comfort, with our Them and Us mentality.


I take it nobody has a clue about my little wooden thing .

Belgian friends have special awfful devices.

Is the purpose of the wooden thing mostly functional?

Your tarmacs are our roads. Only time you hear tarmac used here is when people are talking about airport runways. In the Southeast half or better of our citizens pronounce "road" in such a way where the emphasis is on both the "a" and the long "o." I guess the best way to describe the way it is said is to say it is close to ro-a-ed all slurred together.

Nogo wrote in post #18348822
It is becoming obvious there are regional differences even in the United States. If I remember right you are in the North East, possibly Boston. People in the Southeast consider New Englanders as different from us as Europeans if not even more so. Griddle may be the proper term, but most people I know (in the South) call it a grill. Of course if you just said something was cooked on the "grill" the average Southerner would expect the food to be cooked on an open fire grill such as described by OhLook.

I was born in Georgia and grew up in North Carolina. Didn't move to Boston until my twenties. Southern is a part of me.

I've never seen so much controversy in this game than in recent weeks.

Nathan wrote in post #18349082
I was born in Georgia and grew up in North Carolina. Didn't move to Boston until my twenties. Southern is a part of me.

OK. Then you must be painfully aware of how different Boston English and the speech of the southerners that is a mixture of English, Scotch Irish English, Gullah, Cajun, and who knows what else, are from each other.

Nathan wrote in post #18349085
I've never seen so much controversy in this game than in recent weeks.

I agree. Too many sticklers for accuracy that see accuracy in totally opposite ways. Myself included.