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Need help photographing middle school band (indoors)

 
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Apr 10, 2013 15:12 |  #1

I'll be photographing a middle school marching band in the gymnasium at a school and this is the first time I have ever done this.

The kids will be staged specifically in an incline orientation, staggered between eachother for every row so all their faces will be visible. The format will be similar to these photos ----->

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There will be THREE main shots:

Full Marching Band - 50 people
Drumline - 25 people
Color Guard- 30 people


They will all be standing on the bleachers in the gym for all three shots.

What are some options to light this?( I think the regular, overhead lights won't be sufficient enough...)
I was thinking two 60" umbrellas with strobes at opposite corners of the composition, but will this produce cast shadows on some of the kids' faces?

Also, what lens would be ideal for this? 16mm? 18mm? 24mm?

Most of the photos I have seen seem to be a little higher up than an average standing point, so I'm assuming this should be shot from a ladder at a higher point, being hand held?


Any suggestions, tips, and ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

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Apr 10, 2013 15:42 |  #2

For shots like these I actually prefer to use a longer focal length to get some compression, which helps to give everyone the appearance of being the same size even though subjects in the back are technically farther away. A wide angle lens will exaggerate that and you'll notice all your subjects in the front will be much larger than subjects in the back. Not necessarily a bad thing, just a different look. I think for this shot and the examples you gave (especially that last one) that will really help to give you the look you're after. Requires you have some room to step back, though. Hope this helps


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Apr 10, 2013 15:47 |  #3

Use the longest lens you can get away with for the composition you need. It keeps perspective distortion down (people in front looking bigger than those in the back). On your flashes, if you assume your are in the middle, place your flash halfway to the end of the group (from where you are standing) pointing straight ahead so that the shadows will all go backward. One flash on each side of you. This will even up the spread and combat falloff. Get them up high if possible.




  
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Apr 11, 2013 10:07 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #4

I'll add to Gonzo's post and say that if you have only one flash, place it high and directly behind the camera.


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Apr 12, 2013 08:59 |  #5

whuband wrote in post #15815721 (external link)
I'll add to Gonzo's post and say that if you have only one flash, place it high and directly behind the camera.

yes, you better hope the lighting in the gym is good for that many people!




  
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Apr 16, 2013 20:19 as a reply to  @ watt100's post |  #6

Thanks guys!

I'm planning on getting the two 60" umbrellas to light everyone and probably going to go with a mid range prime lens hopefully to get everything sharp. I was thinking of using my 70-200 f2.8, but then I don't know.


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Apr 18, 2013 12:47 as a reply to  @ post 15835902 |  #7

My buddy went to the school today and he said it is approximately 30 feet from the bleachers to the center of the room, so I would imagine double that for the maximum amount of space available. We're looking at around 50-60 ft of maximum shooting space from the camera to the first person on the bottom row.

Any clue on how high up the camera should be if I'm standing on a ladder?


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Apr 18, 2013 13:47 |  #8

GeminiZ wrote in post #15841953 (external link)
My buddy went to the school today and he said it is approximately 30 feet from the bleachers to the center of the room, so I would imagine double that for the maximum amount of space available. We're looking at around 50-60 ft of maximum shooting space from the camera to the first person on the bottom row.

Any clue on how high up the camera should be if I'm standing on a ladder?

Ideally you want your camera about the height of the center of the group. So it depends on how high the top row is on the risers.




  
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Apr 24, 2013 20:36 as a reply to  @ gonzogolf's post |  #9

Here's how one of the shots came out. I don't think it's too bad for the first time trying this.

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Apr 25, 2013 10:32 |  #10

Looks good. I'm impressed that everyone is looking forward.




  
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Apr 25, 2013 13:13 |  #11

gonzogolf wrote in post #15865940 (external link)
Looks good. I'm impressed that everyone is looking forward.

One of the very few where they all looked forward or didn't blink. So glad I took many multiples.


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Apr 25, 2013 13:45 |  #12

GeminiZ wrote in post #15866487 (external link)
One of the very few where they all looked forward or didn't blink. So glad I took many multiples.

Thank god you didnt have to spend a couple hours replacing heads.




  
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