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Jan 15, 2006 17:17 |  #1

Wow!

I was just tooling around the Internet, proud of myself for having picked up a few more Photoshop Elements 4 skills from Scott Kelby's book when I stumbled upon Alain Briot's website and clicked on his Fine Art Digital Print Workshop page.

Wow! Again. I would describe myself at the toddler stage with PSE4, having graduated from pulling myself up around furniture to actually walking a few steps before falling on my can, so maybe some of you won't be as impressed as I am with his samples.

Take a peek. . .

http://www.beautiful-landscape.com …ne-Art-Digital-Print.html (external link)

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Jan 15, 2006 17:21 |  #2

i'm sorry but Im not that impressed.. Not that he is bad by any means, but I don't see anything on his site that impresses me



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Jan 15, 2006 17:24 |  #3

I thought it was just me! They are nice but I've seen better. Obviously a lot better than me!


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Jan 15, 2006 17:58 |  #4

I guess it's because I can't do very much in PSE4, maybe it's my "toddler" stage. I thought his landscape PP was pretty good, but then I can't do anything remotely like it. . .yet.

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Jan 15, 2006 18:53 |  #5

I've seen better, but that doesnt mean they arent good.

It seems that he post processes a LOT.




  
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Jan 15, 2006 20:24 |  #6

They are extremely impressive in my opinion. I would describe Mr. Briot as a master of localized or selected emphasis. It's about 50% picking your scenes very carefully, 35% post processing effort, 10% composition, and 5% getting the exposure right.


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Jan 15, 2006 20:38 |  #7

Some of the landsape images on that site I think are quite good. Beauty is in the eye of the buyer.


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Jan 15, 2006 20:38 |  #8

They are extremely impressive in my opinion. I would describe Mr. Briot as a master of localized or selected emphasis. It's about 50% picking your scenes very carefully, 35% post processing effort, 10% composition, and 5% getting the exposure right.

You forgot the 2% dumb luck... :)




  
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Jan 15, 2006 21:09 |  #9

I think that the work displayed on Mr. Briot's site shows a great deal of talent. He obviously has an eye for composition, he captures light extremely well in some tough situations. Some of his landscapes are very Rowland-esque in the lighting and shadow.
I don't see how anyone with an eye for art could not consider the majority of the work on his site to be of high quality.


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Jan 15, 2006 21:32 |  #10

Thanks! Now I feel better! ;)




  
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Jan 15, 2006 21:34 as a reply to  @ SWPhotoImaging's post |  #11

SWPhotoImaging wrote:
I don't see how anyone with an eye for art could not consider the majority of the work on his site to be of high quality.

That wasn't the proposition.. The original poster was referring to "being humbled by his Photoshop mastery"

Again, I don't think anything on his site is bad or not good or not great.. I'm just not blown away by his PS skills.



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Jan 16, 2006 01:40 |  #12

I think it's just that I'm blown away by anyone's PS skills. I'm still amazed by it all.




  
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Jan 16, 2006 02:31 as a reply to  @ Robert_Lay's post |  #13

Robert_Lay wrote:
They are extremely impressive in my opinion. I would describe Mr. Briot as a master of localized or selected emphasis. It's about 50% picking your scenes very carefully, 35% post processing effort, 10% composition, and 5% getting the exposure right.

Robert,
there very very few time that I have disagree in your expressive writing. As a matter of fact I've enjoy many of your critiques. But on this one I definitely have to disagree.
50% for picking the scene is way overly generous. He walk by this beautiful scene pick up his camera snap a few shot. How long could he have taken? At best 1/2 hour. As for post processing he took 7 days. If each spend even 2 hours a day for 7 days that would nave been 14 hours. Now if took 1/2 hour to take the shot that would include the composition and exposure. All together that is 14 1/2 hrs for one picture. So as a rough estimate he spend less then 5% of his time taking, composing and expose the picture and over 95% of his time post processing it.

If I had to do that shot for money I think I would've spend at most 2 hours in postprocessing unless the money is rediculously large. Figure about $200/hour seems right.




  
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Jan 16, 2006 02:36 as a reply to  @ JohnCollins's post |  #14

JohnCollins wrote:
I think it's just that I'm blown away by anyone's PS skills. I'm still amazed by it all.

It really isn't that hard. Just take your time and do it one layer at a time. Sometime you have to switch of active layers to see what you could not see before. The most important part is to get it right when taking the shot. Don't worry about taking multiple shots of the ame seen with different exposure because sometime it is better hen the exposure is wrong. I don't believe in those people who say that they only take one shot because they knowit is right. It is like telling me they only brig one arrow to go hunting because they don't miss. HA.




  
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Jan 16, 2006 02:41 as a reply to  @ lostdoggy's post |  #15

lostdoggy wrote:
Robert,
there very very few time that I have disagree in your expressive writing. As a matter of fact I've enjoy many of your critiques. But on this one I definitely have to disagree.
50% for picking the scene is way overly generous. He walk by this beautiful scene pick up his camera snap a few shot. How long could he have taken? At best 1/2 hour. As for post processing he took 7 days. If each spend even 2 hours a day for 7 days that would nave been 14 hours. Now if took 1/2 hour to take the shot that would include the composition and exposure. All together that is 14 1/2 hrs for one picture. So as a rough estimate he spend less then 5% of his time taking, composing and expose the picture and over 95% of his time post processing it.

If I had to do that shot for money I think I would've spend at most 2 hours in postprocessing unless the money is rediculously large. Figure about $200/hour seems right.

I think I know where you are going here, but I can't agree.

There is a lot more to landscape photography than simply walking by and snapping a picture. I have heard of people waiting days in one spot to get the right light before they release the shutter. When working with landscapes it's not often you have the control that a studio, macro, or even a sports photographer has.




  
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