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Apr 24, 2013 07:52 as a reply to  @ post 15858884 |  #16

Kevan,

A quote from the article that I think are so right on and I really like the 10 points he makes.

"It doesn’t matter how technically proficient you are or how expensive your camera is. Without having a sharp and inquisitive eye– you will never make an interesting photograph."-Eric Kim

Points #2,#3 & #8 are so right on....




  
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Apr 24, 2013 09:17 |  #17

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A quote from the article that I think are so right on and I really like the 10 points he makes.

"It doesn’t matter how technically proficient you are or how expensive your camera is. Without having a sharp and inquisitive eye– you will never make an interesting photograph."-Eric Kim

This applies in multiple areas. I've seen folks post that so-and-so's images in a given lens sample thread have convinced them to buy the lens featured in the thread. They assume they can get the same quality image, when it's really the talent of the actual photographer (the aforementioned so-and-so) and not the lens specifically that is responsible for the great images. Likewise folks will claim a picture of a particularly attractive model is an awesome image when it's really the model they like. The same IQ level picture of a less attractive person would get few if any responses, despite that fact that the image is otherwise identical.

Check out the 20D/30D thread for images by a user named Philmar. Really first rate images from a generations old camera. Talent trumps technology.


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Apr 24, 2013 10:05 |  #18

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This applies in multiple areas. I've seen folks post that so-and-so's images in a given lens sample thread have convinced them to buy the lens featured in the thread. They assume they can get the same quality image, when it's really the talent of the actual photographer (the aforementioned so-and-so) and not the lens specifically that is responsible for the great images. Likewise folks will claim a picture of a particularly attractive model is an awesome image when it's really the model they like. The same IQ level picture of a less attractive person would get few if any responses, despite that fact that the image is otherwise identical.

Check out the 20D/30D thread for images by a user named Philmar. Really first rate images from a generations old camera. Talent trumps technology.

If you get a chance go back and read the link I posted here and read the entire piece. Its really good.
https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=15858063&po​stcount=12




  
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Apr 24, 2013 10:56 |  #19

Photography is like music. It's full of different genres and styles. Some you love, some you find ok, some you hate. I like classical, rock, and folk. I can deal with some pop and the occasional country-western, although I'm very picky with CW. I hate jazz and rap.

In that light, I have to say I've never been one to appreciate the works of some very famous photographers. It's not that I think their work isn't noteworthy, it's just that it doesn't suit my tastes. Much like any artwork, I appreciate some, I don't like others. Eggleston is one of those I don't really enjoy. Uta Barth is another. I'm not denying their talent and/or importance, I'm just not a fan.

Kim makes some very valid points, but most of them are not new insights. The one about the level of equipment not being as important as a good eye and an understanding of photography has long been common knowledge. Yes, it bears repeating, but it's not new ground.


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Apr 24, 2013 11:27 |  #20

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Photography is like music. It's full of different genres and styles. Some you love, some you find ok, some you hate. I like classical, rock, and folk. I can deal with some pop and the occasional country-western, although I'm very picky with CW. I hate jazz and rap.

In that light, I have to say I've never been one to appreciate the works of some very famous photographers. It's not that I think their work isn't noteworthy, it's just that it doesn't suit my tastes. Much like any artwork, I appreciate some, I don't like others. Eggleston is one of those I don't really enjoy. Uta Barth is another. I'm not denying their talent and/or importance, I'm just not a fan.

Kim makes some very valid points, but most of them are not new insights. The one about the level of equipment not being as important as a good eye and an understanding of photography has long been common knowledge. Yes, it bears repeating, but it's not new ground.

Never said it was new insight. Weston made some of these same insights almost 80 years ago. To many people think in terms of nouns or the obvious, as Weston would say. To make an image thats more than the noun or what it actually is, beyond subject matter, is really special. Adams even discussed these issues at great length a very long time ago so its nothing new just still very relevant.
And even in music, literature, art and photography, even if its something you don't like can you see the significance of a piece beyond your likes or dislikes?




  
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Apr 24, 2013 11:36 |  #21

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Never said it was new insight. Weston made some of these same insights almost 80 years ago. To many people think in terms of nouns or the obvious, as Weston would say. To make an image thats more than the noun or what it actually is, beyond subject matter, is really special. Adams even discussed these issues at great length a very long time ago so its nothing new just still very relevant.
And even in music, literature, art and photography, even if its something you don't like can you see the significance of a piece beyond your likes or dislikes?

Yes, and I stated that. I agree their work is significant and an important part of photographic history, just as music I don't like is nonetheless important to listen to and let it become part of my knowledge.


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Apr 25, 2013 11:41 |  #22

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Mo, you are right, you totally complied with what I had outlined in my instruction. The thing is, at the time of decision, you have to find for the image that appears to work best (or at least by this poor judge's standard of such). I probably would have picked Allen's image had there been another character added to his scene, depending on how that individual seemed to react to what we saw.

Yours had all the components, but perhaps too many.

I never questioned your decision but that your comments on my photo seemed to go against the instructions. No big deal; as I tell my kids, pick your spot to stand and don't change the rules of the game. :)


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Apr 28, 2013 11:34 |  #23

I got a good insight by seeing the discussion going around, albeit I haven't really been able to get the motivation to just grab the camera & take picture & the other part of editing which I procrastinate on a lot & a lot of things going on right now that are overwhelming me as well.

I'd sum up here the entries I have seen all are really good & I'd like to take pictures more often as well & get the eye in.. probably I would get that motivation sometime soon.


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