Why no such thing as a "perfect" camera?

I keep wondering why manufacturers won´t put they very top of technology and features in one body. See the latest products offered? All of them have at least one "drawback" to it.

There is one camera that called my attention, the Sony RX1.

This camera had the oportunity to get where no other camera has ever been. It had everything to be perfect: Excellent FF sensor, small, not as expensive (considering the sensor). This camera had potential to be a DSLR and Rangefinder killer. But.....

they made it with a fixed lens that I can´t exchange.

Come on! If that thing had a removable lens and an hybrid viewfinder (or at least a built in EVF as the NEXs have) it would be an amazing product. I could mount EOS, Nikkor, Leica and Sony lenses to it. Use the onboard EVF to focus-peak and get everything good in a small package. How cool would that be?

Sony has the technology and know how to do it. We´ve seen on their other bodies. It was just a matter of putting it all together. Still they didn´t.
Same goes to other manufacturers. Fuji has this amazing non-AA sensor on the XPro1 and won´t give it a decent AF... still put a APS-C sensor instead of a full frame one in it.

EOS-M can´t even focus fast enough.
5D3 has a sensor that is at least 1 generation behind competition.
D800 has such a deprecated movie mode you can´t even change the aperture while recording.

I mean... am I the only one here? Don´t you feel things could be MUCH better without much more work?

Better how? Better for whom? If one doesn't care about video, then your 'great flaw' of the D800 isn't a flaw, it isn't an issue.

I eagerly await the launch of your camera company as you seem to have the answers. For canon and the rest I suspect its more about getting the best camera within a particular price point to the market where it will be purchased by the greatest number of people. If they did make a perfect camera, I likely couldn't afford it. And perfect for who? My perfect and yours might differ greatly.

gonzogolf wrote in post #15842210
And perfect for who? My perfect and yours might differ greatly.

This is the key I think. The only way to make the "perfect camera" is to make individual custom cameras for each customer. If there was a market for such a thing, I'm sure it's being fulfilled. If not, then perhaps someone should start it. Once you reach that strata of disposable income, this becomes a non-issue. It's only us lowly middle classes that need an economically feasible solution.

This is why it won't work. You look at the SOny and see one flaw on an otherwise perfect camera. I look at the Sony and see so many flaws that it doesn't even come close. So, who's right, you and one interchangeable lens, or me, who wants an interchangeable lens, larger body, way better grip, 1/2 the price, much faster AF, much better battery life and more.

As others have already stated, there's no such thing as a universally perfect camera. To some people, it might already exist and they are out using it right now.

gonzogolf wrote in post #15842210
I eagerly await the launch of your camera company as you seem to have the answers. For canon and the rest I suspect its more about getting the best camera within a particular price point to the market where it will be purchased by the greatest number of people. If they did make a perfect camera, I likely couldn't afford it. And perfect for who? My perfect and yours might differ greatly.

You bet you´d benefit from my camera company!
As I´d offer you:

Small form factor (RX1)
Hybrid viewfinder (Xpro1)
non-AA sensor (Xpro1)
Full Frame sensor with great DR and low noise (D800)
Fast contrast-detect AF (EP3)
Good video mode (5D3)
Fast frame rate while reasonably large MP count (5D3)
Exchangeable lenses
In-body IS (Sony/Pentax)
Pixels dedicated to Phase Detection (new EOS Rebels)

It does not seem to be THAT hard to do it, as these are all technologies working today in different bodies.

That could all be done in one camera, but then who's buying the rest of them? Camera manufacturers, unfortunately, are smarter then that.

How much would your perfect camera cost?

What about a crop sensor, I want one of those as well for when I need that extra pixel density and not a crop mode as that does not offer the advantages of those extra pixels on target.

Alex_Venom wrote in post #15842371
You bet you´d benefit from my camera company!
As I´d offer you:

Small form factor (RX1)
Hybrid viewfinder (Xpro1)
non-AA sensor (Xpro1)
Full Frame sensor with great DR and low noise (D800)
Fast contrast-detect AF (EP3)
Good video mode (5D3)
Fast frame rate while reasonably large MP count (5D3)
Exchangeable lenses
In-body IS (Sony/Pentax)
Pixels dedicated to Phase Detection (new EOS Rebels)

It does not seem to be THAT hard to do it, as these are all technologies working today in different bodies.

Ahh but I wouldnt. I dont like the small bodies, I abhor hybrid viewfinders, have no use for video, so what you are offering not only doesnt appeal to me but the hybrid viewfinder would be a deal breaker.

Alex_Venom wrote in post #15842371
You bet you´d benefit from my camera company!
As I´d offer you:

Small form factor (RX1)
Hybrid viewfinder (Xpro1)
non-AA sensor (Xpro1)
Full Frame sensor with great DR and low noise (D800)
Fast contrast-detect AF (EP3)
Good video mode (5D3)
Fast frame rate while reasonably large MP count (5D3)
Exchangeable lenses
In-body IS (Sony/Pentax)
Pixels dedicated to Phase Detection (new EOS Rebels)

It does not seem to be THAT hard to do it, as these are all technologies working today in different bodies.

None of it is "hard", but by the time you either pay to license all of those technologies or pay a staff of engineers to design and test all of them you will be charging Phase One prices just to break even and nobody will be able to afford your product. Like Gonzo said: "...the best camera within a particular price point to the market where it will be purchased by the greatest number of people."

as an old mentor of mine used to say: "if it was easy, everyone would do it".

namtot wrote in post #15842380
That could all be done in one camera, but then who's buying the rest of them?

it's like cell phones, why is there no such thing as a "perfect" cell phone?

gonzogolf wrote in post #15842405
Ahh but I wouldnt. I dont like the small bodies, I abhor hybrid viewfinders, have no use for video, so what you are offering not only doesnt appeal to me but the hybrid viewfinder would be a deal breaker.

Really? Don´t you like hybrid viewfinders? Care to explain why?
I find them really good and light years ahead the optical ones, basically because you can have both OVF and EVF in the same body.
The way Fuji implemented it is OK, but imagine that technology applied to a pentaprism! You could have everything you already have in your DSLR, plus a histogram and much more information!

The OVF on the 7D and 5D3 are very good but still lack information. Put a live histogram in there and I think it would please a lot of people. Of course you could turn it off if you don´t like it.