Why no such thing as a "perfect" camera?

Alex_Venom wrote in post #15844761
My point is: why don´t we see any manufacturer put their very best in one affordable body and crush the competition?

Does it sound better now?

Actually, it sounds naive beyond description.

You realize that what you are saying above is that you want one corporation to sell their products at a huge loss in an effort to drive all of their competitors out of business, meaning that you'd get one good camera now but probably never be able to afford another camera once they have established a monopoly and "adjusted" their pricing to make up for all the money they lost killing the other companies.

They're waiting for the Perfect Wife to invent it....

small rx1 body, blazing fast contrast detect, BSTAF (back screen touch auto focus), + F2 pancakes + in body stabilization.... that can work too. I think I can deal with no OVF if there is blazing fast contrast detect AND in body stabilization.

or

a bunch of pancakes would save me the trouble from switching systems.

krb wrote in post #15845244
Actually, it sounds naive beyond description.

You realize that what you are saying above is that you want one corporation to sell their products at a huge loss in an effort to drive all of their competitors out of business, meaning that you'd get one good camera now but probably never be able to afford another camera once they have established a monopoly and "adjusted" their pricing to make up for all the money they lost killing the other companies.

I don´t see it that way. I think competitors would effort to show something better in a small time frame.
Canon would be rushing the 5D4 right now after the EXMOR sensor on the D800. And Nikon would be rushing the D900 as many people jumped ship for video.

Thats just not the way it works, manufacturers want their customers to buy into an upgrade cycle, not buy one camera and never buy another one.

Alex_Venom wrote in post #15846055
I don´t see it that way. I think competitors would effort to show something better in a small time frame.
Canon would be rushing the 5D4 right now after the EXMOR sensor on the D800. And Nikon would be rushing the D900 as many people jumped ship for video.

In other words they'd be spending a ton of money and rushing the products to market. Do you honestly believe that this would result in more "affordable" products? Or in products that would be well tested and trouble free? Where are you going to find the customers to buy all of these expensive cameras?

Manufacturers already do put their best technologies in a single body. It sounds like the only problem you have with it is that it's not "affordable". As krb said, how would it make any sense from a financial standpoint to offer your flagship camera for pennies on the dollar?

someone mentioned chinese food in a tripod thread

you can only get 2 out of 3

cheap
FF goodness
lightweight

well as you can see, not the best example, but you get the gist of it.... you cant have it all.

I'd be happy with a MFT low light monster with 5 fps. No ovf needed, the lenses are already there and tempting. Or Alpha system DSLT with excellent low light performance. Seeing dof changes on the fly and 0 guessing. Affordable Alpha DSL.

Alpha system DSLT can be interchanged with EVF if Canon is willing to start with EVFs.

Alex_Venom wrote in post #15842079
I keep wondering why manufacturers won´t put they very top of technology and features in one body. See the latest products offered? All of them have at least one "drawback" to it.

There is one camera that called my attention, the Sony RX1.

This camera had the oportunity to get where no other camera has ever been. It had everything to be perfect: Excellent FF sensor, small, not as expensive (considering the sensor). This camera had potential to be a DSLR and Rangefinder killer. But.....

they made it with a fixed lens that I can´t exchange.

Come on! If that thing had a removable lens and an hybrid viewfinder (or at least a built in EVF as the NEXs have) it would be an amazing product. I could mount EOS, Nikkor, Leica and Sony lenses to it. Use the onboard EVF to focus-peak and get everything good in a small package. How cool would that be?

Sony has the technology and know how to do it. We´ve seen on their other bodies. It was just a matter of putting it all together. Still they didn´t.
Same goes to other manufacturers. Fuji has this amazing non-AA sensor on the XPro1 and won´t give it a decent AF... still put a APS-C sensor instead of a full frame one in it.

EOS-M can´t even focus fast enough.
5D3 has a sensor that is at least 1 generation behind competition.
D800 has such a deprecated movie mode you can´t even change the aperture while recording.

I mean... am I the only one here? Don´t you feel things could be MUCH better without much more work?

Presuming you could make the perfect camera that everybody would agree on, it would still lack one last important "perfect" trait: Price / Affordability

photoguy6405 wrote in post #15849453
Presuming you could make the perfect camera that everybody would agree on, it would still lack one last important "perfect" trait: Price / Affordability

yes, price is often the most imperfect feature