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Long term thoughts on the new Sigma 35 1.4?

 
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May 06, 2013 12:57 as a reply to  @ post 15901862 |  #46

Got my Sigma 35 today. I still need to really test the lens out and run it through FoCal, but from what I'm seeing intially, I'm very impressed with the lens. Very sharp at f1.4. Easily on-par (at least) with the 85L at 1.2.....which says a lot.

I don't see any AF issues so far. Have taken multiple shots inside and outside, and every shot has been tack sharp with no AF mis-fires.


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May 06, 2013 21:08 as a reply to  @ mystik610's post |  #47

I haven't had a chance to shoot seriously with this yet, but so far I'm a believer. Took a couple of quick test shots with this lens while walking around campus tonight.

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Lens is basically ridiculously sharp even at f1.4. Most fast primes mask DoF miscalculations because they're so soft wide open. Not the case with the 35L. It's sharpness stopped down will absolutely expose bad technique. It's at least as sharp as the 85L stopped down, which again, says a lot.

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Again, crazy sharp stopped down, but the bokeh seems a bit 'busy'...at least when compared to the dreaminess of the 50L.

I shot quite a few shots throughout the day in various shooting conditions....inside my car, office, outside, etc etc. Did not encounter a single focus issue. I did run into instances where the focus would hunt for a bit, but totally tolerable, IMO.

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May 06, 2013 21:17 |  #48

I've been reading up a lot about this lens. I rented the 35L over christmas and was blown away with it's quality.
I haven't had a chance to try the Sigma as no renting companies here stock it. But I've gone through all the reviews. Is the vignetting as bad as they make it out to be?
Basically I can get a used 35L here for the same price as a new Sigma. I'm thinking the Canon would be the better choice.


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May 06, 2013 21:59 |  #49

CircuitR wrote in post #15905046 (external link)
I've been reading up a lot about this lens. I rented the 35L over christmas and was blown away with it's quality.
I haven't had a chance to try the Sigma as no renting companies here stock it. But I've gone through all the reviews. Is the vignetting as bad as they make it out to be?
Basically I can get a used 35L here for the same price as a new Sigma. I'm thinking the Canon would be the better choice.

It does vignette pretty badly stopped down. You can see it in the photos I posted above, which, aside from WB adjustments are SOC. I wouldn't worry about vignetting too much though, as its easily corrected in post.

I haven't spent enough time with the lens to speak conclusively just yet, but so far, my experience is consistent with the reviewers. Along with owning the 50L & 85L, I've rented the 24L and 35L. Based on the reviews and what I've seen so far, I honestly don't see a reason to buy a 35L right now, unless your heart is set on the Canon for reasons other than IQ.


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May 06, 2013 23:04 |  #50

My sigma 50 and 35 both focus reasonably well on 5d3, though 35 leads a little bit.
My previous sigma 30 has focus shift under different lighting condition on 7D.

I guess it is a combination of body and lens.


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May 06, 2013 23:18 |  #51

Just ran FoCal on the Sigma 35, 50L, and 85L.

Sigma needed a +3 MA (for reference, my 50L is at -2, and 85L is at 0)

Focus consistency test was interesting:

85L had a consistency of focus of 93.2

50L had a consistency of focus of 87.5

Sigma 35 had a focus consistency of 98.1

Based on what I know having owned 85L and 50L for a while, this seems about right, comparatively, between these two lenses.

Will run these tests again tomorrow in daylight.


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May 07, 2013 00:47 |  #52

CircuitR wrote in post #15905046 (external link)
Basically I can get a used 35L here for the same price as a new Sigma. I'm thinking the Canon would be the better choice.

The Canon doesn't really beat this particular Sigma in any way except for slightly less vignetting and slightly faster AF. So no, it isn't the better choice. Keep in mind that the Canon is a much older design.


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35L isn't even remotely close to the new Sigma 35.

You won't truly know and appreciate just how good the Sigma is until you shoot both of them wide open and compare.


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May 07, 2013 19:54 as a reply to  @ kin2son's post |  #54

Re-ran focal in daylight today (initial test was in incandescent lighting, and came up with the same +3 MA value. Looks like I got a good copy. Time to play the lottery!

At any rate, I know I was apprehensive towards the lens when I posted this thread, but it really is a fantastic prime.

I don't have a 35L on hand to compare with, but if any one is curious about how the Sigma 35 fairs against the 50L and 85L in an 'eyeball' test, here are a few comparison shots:

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May 07, 2013 22:47 |  #55

So did you take any real pics with the lens or just using it to shoot calibration targets?




  
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May 07, 2013 23:02 |  #56

BigCarbs wrote in post #15909292 (external link)
So did you take any real pics with the lens or just using it to shoot calibration targets?

Oh god..:rolleyes:Posted some pics above in an earlier post . nice try being ass about it though

Have had the lens for only two days now, and have not had a chance to do any real shooting yet. Have had issues with sigma lenses I'm the past, and have heard of issues with this lens, and wanted to test it out thoroughly before I made a decision to keep it or not.


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May 08, 2013 03:59 |  #57

Sigma 35 1.4 Art is one heck of a design, newer optic and tech.. beats Canon 35L wide open, but Canon's 1998 35L is legendary. By all means, 15 years old lens is still a very competitive lens, still used by many Canon Pro photog. We don't know if Sigmas 35 Art would survive 15 year journey... I just ordered one, so crossed my fingers. It's nice to spend my money on newer tech lens :)


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May 08, 2013 09:12 |  #58

I isn't do any testing with mine when I got it and took it to a wedding, everything came out great. I think if I take a bunch of pics of calibration targets I could find flaws




  
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I isn't do any testing with mine when I got it and took it to a wedding, everything came out great. I think if I take a bunch of pics of calibration targets I could find flaws

Do you also buy a car without test driving it?

I don't normally test lenses as intensely as I did this one, however sigma has had enough of a history with quality control/sample variation between products to warrant it....so much so that adorama is offering to test a sigma lens before sending it to a customer. Theyre also doing an investigational survey on survey lenses to gain insight on the frequency of AF issues with Sigma lenses.

Running a test like focal is valuable as it gives quantifiable metrics about the performance of a test, and eliminates user bias. It's piece of mind for me, as $900, though cheaper than canons offering, is a lot to spend on something that may or may not work as intended.


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May 08, 2013 12:29 |  #60

mystik610 wrote in post #15910601 (external link)
Do you also buy a car without test driving it?

I don't normally test lenses as intensely as I did this one, however sigma has had enough of a history with quality control/sample variation between products to warrant it....so much so that adorama is offering to test a sigma lens before sending it to a customer. Theyre also doing an investigational survey on survey lenses to gain insight on the frequency of AF issues with Sigma lenses.

Running a test like focal is valuable as it gives quantifiable metrics about the performance of a test, and eliminates user bias. It's piece of mind for me, as $900, though cheaper than canons offering, is a lot to spend on something that may or may not work as intended.

Yeah I test drive a car but I don't put it on a dyno to see if it is getting the specified horsepower rating before I buy it.




  
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